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Smile what is the best time get blood test for testostorne levels?

I am on 250mg enthante a week .trt therapy.
On my second week so going for tests soon.
I was wanting to know when the best time to get
blood tests done for levels of test .I have looked on
the internet and what i have learnt is the test levels
peak at 24 to 48 hours after jab and are at there lowest
the day before next jab.I am going to ask the doctor if i can
test 48 hours after first test and on the morning of my jab.
(blood test are cheap in my counry).to get an adverage of
testostorne to see the difference and how much enthante
a week a will need to get me in a good range ,good energy
,increased libido,fat loss etc, with out side effects.I have a
great doctor!!
What do you think?

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My previous endo told me 8-10 a.m.What levels you have pre TRT,how old are you?
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I have allways done my testing the day of my next shot do the blood test first thing in the morning and do the shot when I get home.
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My previous endo told me 8-10 a.m.What levels you have pre TRT,how old are you?
thanks for reply
I have had 10,11,13,11 on tests range is 10-28 nmol/L for testosterone
and 393,409 range 250-800 pmol/L for free testosterone these tests
have been over the last few years when i was 24 years old i am now 28 years old.
low energy,libido,recovery from gym.The doctors a crab they just say deal with
it ,it must be stress,your diet !! I look at them and laugh!! I am 6foot 102 kgs
12% body fat and they tell me it is diet , when they are 75 kgs at 25% body fat!!
Now i have been to mens clinic and they are awsome!!! They are willing to
work together to get the best outcome for me!
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hi guys
Whats happening???
I thought this site would help!!!
We have all these problems of low test,etc and all the advice based
on blood tests ,but no one can reply to with any information on when to
get blood tests to show an accorect report!!! Can any one tell me or show
sites or qutoe information and source!!!
It seems there is more interest in penis inlargement ,bumps
on your penis and other rubbish!!!
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Default Re: what is the best time get blood test for testostorne levels?

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hi guys
Whats happening???
I thought this site would help!!!
We have all these problems of low test,etc and all the advice based
on blood tests ,but no one can reply to with any information on when to
get blood tests to show an accorect report!!! Can any one tell me or show
sites or qutoe information and source!!!
It seems there is more interest in penis inlargement ,bumps
on your penis and other rubbish!!!
It was well put above- the day of your injection, but not after the injection. When your testosterone level is the highest, is referred to as the "peak." When your testosterone level is the lowest, is referred to as the "trough." The day of your injection, before you do the injection, you are in the trough. I recommend having your blood drawn during the trough period because it will show your doc what state your levels are in when they are at their lowest. If you have them done during your peak, he will assume the results are your new "low" levels, when in reality they are not.

As far as penis size goes, it is a simple rule! Stick with women who are of smaller frame than yourself and relatively lean and it won't be an issue! In fact, there will be times she will ask you to relax a bit or get on top because you are ramming her cervix! Also remember that the magic is in the clitoris which is on the exterior! This is why some women rather have other women pleasure them, because they understand this! Its all in the clit! Constant stimulation- not too soft, not too hard.

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It was well put above- the day of your injection, but not after the injection. When your testosterone level is the highest, is referred to as the "peak." When your testosterone level is the lowest, is referred to as the "trough." The day of your injection, before you do the injection, you are in the trough. I recommend having your blood drawn during the trough period because it will show your doc what state your levels are in when they are at their lowest. If you have them done during your peak, he will assume the results are your new "low" levels, when in reality they are not.

As far as penis size goes, it is a simple rule! Stick with women who are of smaller frame than yourself and relatively lean and it won't be an issue! In fact, there will be times she will ask you to relax a bit or get on top because you are ramming her cervix! Also remember that the magic is in the clitoris which is on the exterior! This is why some women rather have other women pleasure them, because they understand this! Its all in the clit! Constant stimulation- not too soft, not too hard.
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Default Re: what is the best time get blood test for testostorne levels?

Why are you on 250mgs of enanthate a week?... this sounds more like a light steriod cycle than hormone replacement.

As you are just 28, has the reason for your low testosterone been determined?

The doctors are not altogether wrong... stress and a diet low in fats and too much training can lower your testosterone levels significantly.
Hormone replacement is a big decision especially at your age, It should be an absolute last resort as it is full of difficulties and is never as good as your own natural function.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by the/rock
I am on 250mg enthante a week .trt therapy.
On my second week so going for tests soon.
I was wanting to know when the best time to get
blood tests done for levels of test .I have looked on
the internet and what i have learnt is the test levels
peak at 24 to 48 hours after jab and are at there lowest
the day before next jab.I am going to ask the doctor if i can
test 48 hours after first test and on the morning of my jab.
(blood test are cheap in my counry).to get an adverage of
testostorne to see the difference and how much enthante
a week a will need to get me in a good range ,good energy
,increased libido,fat loss etc, with out side effects.I have a
great doctor!!
What do you think?
Obtaining a total testosterone Peak blood level and a Trough blood level is useful.

The Peak for Testosterone Enanthate is about 24-48 hours after the injection.
The Trough (lowest level) for Testosterone Enanthate is just before the next injection.

Obtaining both levels will give the range of testosterone one's body is exposed to.
This is helpful to see if a person is within a good therapeutic range.

The shorter the intervals between injections, the flatter the range will be.

Large variations between the peak and trough can be a problem because there can be large changes in DHT and Estradiol levels - contributing to problems such as weight gain, acne, hair loss, and hot flashes. Hot flashes occur when estradiol levels drop quickly - they are withdrawal from estrogen.

Large peaks of testosterone may also result in large amounts of DHT and Estradiol being made. When Estradiol is made from testosterone, its peak levels last much longer than testosterone itself - resulting in a larger exposure to estradiol even as the levels of testosterone drop.

Testosterone Enanthate usually has a half-life of about 7-9 days. This results in a good total testosterone level (e.g. 700-900) at a dose of 100 mg a week. The half-life varies though depending on the person's ability to metabolize testosterone enanthate and testosterone.

In some men, the half-life of Testosterone Enanthate is much shorter. For example, in some men, the half-life is around 4 days. To achieve a total testosterone of around 800, such a person would need about 200 mg a week.

Given a Testosterone Enanthate dose of 200 mg every 2 weeks for an average hypogonadal male, the total testosterone curve shows a peak of around 1250 ng/dl approximately 24-48 hours after the injection, 1000 ng/dl around 4 days after the injection, 800 ng/dl 7 days after the injection, 600 ng/dl 10 days after the injection, and baseline about 14 days after the injection.

A way to tell what the half-life would be is to give the person a 200 mg dose then measure the total testosterone approximately 4 days or 7 days later. If the level is significantly lower than the average male dose curve, then the half-life is going to be shorter.

For example, I have a patient with a level of about 600 ng/dl 4 days after the 200 mg injection. This is about 40% less than the expected 1000 ng/dl seen in an average person. He has a very short half-life for testosterone enanthate. One could argue that his half-life is about 3 days (since 600 ng/dl is about half of the peak of 1250 ng/dl 24 hours after the injection). His body quickly destroys testosterone. He needed a 200 mg a week dose to achieve a trough blood level of about 800 ng/dl. It was best to dose this 100 mg twice a week to maintain an even blood level, avoiding a roller coaster effect, given the very short half-life of testosterone and testosterone enanthate in his body.
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Why are you on 250mgs of enanthate a week?... this sounds more like a light steriod cycle than hormone replacement.

As you are just 28, has the reason for your low testosterone been determined?

The doctors are not altogether wrong... stress and a diet low in fats and too much training can lower your testosterone levels significantly.
Hormone replacement is a big decision especially at your age, It should be an absolute last resort as it is full of difficulties and is never as good as your own natural function.
thanks for your reply.
I have a case history of 3 to 4 years and do no means do i want to injected .
I have been working with doctors and nutritionalist for the pass 3 to 4 years
and have work with supplements ,then test gels ,and just started to inject the past
2 weeks .All fairness to you i have been on bodybuilding.com forum and explained all
of this!! I just resently found this sight ,have been told it was good so asked a straight up
question than going into life story!!! And if i wanted to to a cycle i would of done it years ago
and would not be in this section!!! i have spend more money in the last 3 to 4 years than
Ronnie coleman has spend on drugs in the past 3 to 4 years ,just for me to fix a low test problem!!So please dont judge me and tell me i am only 28 years old i have heard that
so many times from doctors, trust me i dont want to jab ,i just want to have energy to go to work
play with my kids and go to the gym 3 times a week ,with out feeling like a old man!!! That needs
a nap in the after noon and needs viagra to have sex with his wife!!! and i am only 28 years old!!
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