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I read a part of a couple theads on here and see that some people have discontinued their HRT to commence PCT. My question is why would this be done, I mean if HRT is truely replacement, why would there be a need to discontinue (question 1)?
I'm 35 and have been on HRT (T injections) for about 14 weeks. My test levels were below 1/2 of the low end of the normal range. As part of my therapy, which in part was to reduce body fat, I was prescribed 400 mg T, 50 mg stanozolol, and HCG. Of course my proscribed amount is above the usual HRT protocol and I need to give the winstol a rest for a while.
I have been toying with the idea of temporaily stopping HRT and commencing PCT vs moving to a 150mg split dose administration to be more in line with the more conventional proscribed dosages.
Opinions as to one versus the other (question 2) and would there be any point of PCT while continuing a low 150mg administration (question 3)?
Finally, in another thread someone mentioned 2500mg HCG EOD. Is there any reason for this and who believes there would be any significant difference between this dosing schedule and 1000mg to 1250mg ED (question 4)?
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You don't do a PCT unless you would doing Anabolic Steroids and coming off a cycle. Or you have Anabolic Steroid Induced Hypogonadism (ASIH) and you want to do a PCT to see if you can jump start your HPTA again.
How did you get a Dr. to put you on this much testosterone or were you doing this 2 x's a month.
I need a lot of T because I eat it up as fast as I take it. So I do 80mgs every 3 days and the 2 days in between each I do 400 IU's of HCG this keeps me leveled and holds down my Estradiol levels. You might just try doing this I don't feel you will crash or need a PCT. Then PCT will not work is your levels were low to start with.
As for doing this much HCG 1000 to 1250 IU's ED is nuts your going to desensitize your testis and become Primary meaning your Testis don't work even if your Primary before doing this your will kill your testis burn them out.
Never do more then 500 IU's in a day.
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Originally Posted by powerhungry1
I read a part of a couple theads on here and see that some people have discontinued their HRT to commence PCT. My question is why would this be done, I mean if HRT is truely replacement, why would there be a need to discontinue (question 1)?
I'm 35 and have been on HRT (T injections) for about 14 weeks. My test levels were below 1/2 of the low end of the normal range. As part of my therapy, which in part was to reduce body fat, I was prescribed 400 mg T, 50 mg stanozolol, and HCG. Of course my proscribed amount is above the usual HRT protocol and I need to give the winstol a rest for a while.
I have been toying with the idea of temporaily stopping HRT and commencing PCT vs moving to a 150mg split dose administration to be more in line with the more conventional proscribed dosages.
Opinions as to one versus the other (question 2) and would there be any point of PCT while continuing a low 150mg administration (question 3)?
Finally, in another thread someone mentioned 2500mg HCG EOD. Is there any reason for this and who believes there would be any significant difference between this dosing schedule and 1000mg to 1250mg ED (question 4)?
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Perhaps I should rephrase the question. What are people's general consensus on post-cycle treatment for someone who is testosterone deficient and should require testosterone injections?
If you read above, you can see that my HRT protocol has been more along the lines of a cycle versus HRT (higher T dosage w/ winstol). In general, a person would commence PCT to get back to baseline, but how would the fact that baseline is, say 150 mgs test per wk, factor into the equation when the absence of any test would place the person at substandard levels.
Perhaps 150 mgs should be continued with injections of HCG (though my testes are not raisins since I have periodically used HCG throughout), and no nolva or clomid.
Could nolva and clomid provid any befefit to someone who was on 150mgs test / wk HRT?
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My main problem is this. I am knowledgeable in AAS and PCT, but am unsure of how an endogenous deficiency requiring exogenous supplementation factors into the equation when the HRT individual is coming off-cycle.
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Here is the bottom line if you were not doing AS and your Testosterone was low to start if you stop even doing a PCT or jump start all your going to do is crash go down lower then you started. Men doing steroids have a good level of Testosterone to start with and when they cycle the steroid and do a PCT or jump start it's in the hopes that they will go back to there old start levels. Problem is for some this does not happen and they end up on TRT for life. So if you were low to start with all your going to do by stopping is crash.
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this is kind of what i concluded. Because test levels were low to start, stopping all would return me to low levels, which is undesirable. For the time being, I've lowered my dosage, but that is all. added some clomid/tamox as well and continuing my proscribed hcg.
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Can you tell me a little more succinctly and specifically what you want to know?
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Originally Posted by powerhungry1
I read a part of a couple theads on here and see that some people have discontinued their HRT to commence PCT. My question is why would this be done, I mean if HRT is truely replacement, why would there be a need to discontinue (question 1)?
I'm 35 and have been on HRT (T injections) for about 14 weeks. My test levels were below 1/2 of the low end of the normal range. As part of my therapy, which in part was to reduce body fat, I was prescribed 400 mg T, 50 mg stanozolol, and HCG. Of course my proscribed amount is above the usual HRT protocol and I need to give the winstol a rest for a while.
I have been toying with the idea of temporaily stopping HRT and commencing PCT vs moving to a 150mg split dose administration to be more in line with the more conventional proscribed dosages.
Opinions as to one versus the other (question 2) and would there be any point of PCT while continuing a low 150mg administration (question 3)?
Finally, in another thread someone mentioned 2500mg HCG EOD. Is there any reason for this and who believes there would be any significant difference between this dosing schedule and 1000mg to 1250mg ED (question 4)?
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