Would it make sense to add Cialis to Test Cream

[The_Skeptic]

Say I buy both Cialis and Test in a powder form and dissolve the two in an avocado oil before mixing it into a transdermal cream. Then apply it to my penis every few days.

Would the Cialis absorb through my skin and act more efficiently considering it's entering the target area, perhaps with less sides?

[Jim_Gym]

You gotta be joking, right? Testosterone gel is usually recommended to be rubbed gently onto the smooth skin on your abdomen or torso or arms or thighs, not directly onto the penis or scrotum itself. I believe that could cause problems for you if you do that. I am sure someone else here could give you a techincal explantion of exactly why.

And the Cialis, if you need it just take the pill and forget about it.

[The_Skeptic]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gym

You gotta be joking, right? Testosterone gel is usually recommended to be rubbed gently onto the smooth skin on your abdomen or torso or arms or thighs, not directly onto the penis or scrotum itself. I believe that could cause problems for you if you do that. I am sure someone else here could give you a techincal explantion of exactly why.

And the Cialis, if you need it just take the pill and forget about it.

Dr. Shippen recommends rubbing a low-percentage T-cream on your genitals to prevent atrophy. The reason it is not recommended in most cases is because it causes DHT to soar.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by The_Skeptic

Dr. Shippen recommends rubbing a low-percentage T-cream on your genitals to prevent atrophy. The reason it is not recommended in most cases is because it causes DHT to soar.

The_Skeptic;
You do have a low DHT, right.
If you do, then using T cream on pines or scrotum may make a sense.
Cialis is long acting, use it twice a week, may be every 3rd day.
You will be using T-cream every day.
If you insist on mixing powder Cialis with T-cream (possibly good way to deal with powder),
then have a two T-creams. One straight and the other mixed with powder Cialis.
Interesting idea, I would use it, not on my pines but on my tigh or calf. I have a thin skin on my calf.
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Were you actually able to get powder Cialis?
I have got some e-mail comunications with the supplier, but when I was trying to buy $50 worth of it the comunication stopped. Let me know how were able to make a purchase.
Also how to properly mix the powder with cream, what tools to use?
You do not want to increase volume, the idea of T cream is to have a small volume and small area of application.
So in your case, you may be ideal candidate for Androgel, I currently use it and have DHT to spare.

[The_Skeptic]

Originally Posted by JanSz

The_Skeptic;
You do have a low DHT, right.
If you do, then using T cream on pines or scrotum may make a sense.
Cialis is long acting, use it twice a week, may be every 3rd day.
You will be using T-cream every day.
If you insist on mixing powder Cialis with T-cream (possibly good way to deal with powder),
then have a two T-creams. One straight and the other mixed with powder Cialis.
Interesting idea, I would use it, not on my pines but on my tigh or calf. I have a thin skin on my calf.
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Were you actually able to get powder Cialis?
I have got some e-mail comunications with the supplier, but when I was trying to buy $50 worth of it the comunication stopped. Let me know how were able to make a purchase.
Also how to properly mix the powder with cream, what tools to use?
You do not want to increase volume, the idea of T cream is to have a small volume and small area of application.
So in your case, you may be ideal candidate for Androgel, I currently use it and have DHT to spare.

Yes, my problem is excessive E2, not DHT. I haven't purchased powdered Cialis yet, but I plan to the first of the year. I did buy some powder Test and turned it into a cream and so far, I seem to like it better than the Test shots, but I would like to order new Test powder and create a stronger concentration of cream.

I like your idea of making two batches of cream. The way I made the test cream was simple. I disolved the test in avocado oil by heating it in a beaker. Then I added some Vanicream, some purified water and mixed it up. Then I let it cool and had my cream. I would do the same with the Cialis.

[Jim_Gym]

Originally Posted by The_Skeptic

I like your idea of making two batches of cream. The way I made the test cream was simple. I disolved the test in avocado oil by heating it in a beaker. Then I added some Vanicream, some purified water and mixed it up. Then I let it cool and had my cream. I would do the same with the Cialis.

Just curious why you wouldn't just save yourself a lot of time and hassle and just apply some 5% or 10% testosterone in gel form daily and pop a cialis pill when you need it every few days instead of mixing and heating up batches of powder and making creams? Seems like a lot of trouble for no reason.

[The_Skeptic]

Originally Posted by Jim_Gym

Just curious why you wouldn't just save yourself a lot of time and hassle and just apply some 5% or 10% testosterone in gel form daily and pop a cialis pill when you need it every few days instead of mixing and heating up batches of powder and making creams? Seems like a lot of trouble for no reason.

I was just curious how the cialis would react by being absorbed directly into the penis, which is the target area anyway. Sometimes Cialis makes me shake, makes my heart beat too fast, turns my face red, etc.

[Andrew Androgen]

Originally Posted by The_Skeptic

Yes, my problem is excessive E2, not DHT. I haven't purchased powdered Cialis yet, but I plan to the first of the year. I did buy some powder Test and turned it into a cream and so far, I seem to like it better than the Test shots, but I would like to order new Test powder and create a stronger concentration of cream.

I like your idea of making two batches of cream. The way I made the test cream was simple. I disolved the test in avocado oil by heating it in a beaker. Then I added some Vanicream, some purified water and mixed it up. Then I let it cool and had my cream. I would do the same with the Cialis.

What quantity of avacado oil to powder do you use & where do you buy vanicream? I've only tried Phlojel Ultra & didn't much like it. Could you please let us know the quantities of each ingredient to make that test cream? I bet it works out a lot cheaper than having a chemist compound it for you!
Cheers.

[Jim_Gym]

Originally Posted by The_Skeptic

I was just curious how the cialis would react by being absorbed directly into the penis, which is the target area anyway. Sometimes Cialis makes me shake, makes my heart beat too fast, turns my face red, etc.

Yeah but medicines don't necessarilly work like that, just because you want it to affect your penis doesn't mean you want to absorb it directly through the skin of your penis! The active ingrediant of any drug usually needs to go into your bloodstream, and that usually means swallowing, drinking, inhaling or an injection through your mouth, lungs or smooth parts of your skin, not necessarilly on the part of the body you want to heal.

[The_Skeptic]

Originally Posted by Andrew Androgen

What quantity of avacado oil to powder do you use & where do you buy vanicream? I've only tried Phlojel Ultra & didn't much like it. Could you please let us know the quantities of each ingredient to make that test cream? I bet it works out a lot cheaper than having a chemist compound it for you!
Cheers.

I based my recipe on the following recipe I found online at http://www.paddocklabs.com/forms/sec...volume_8_2.pdf


Rx Testosterone Propionate Cream

Testosterone propionate 2 g
Peanut oil 20 mL
Purified water 8 mL
Dermabase™ qs 100 g

1. Accurately weigh/measure each of the ingredients.
2. Dissolve the testosterone propionate in the peanut oil.
3. Add the Dermabase with gentle heating until softened.
4. Add the purified water, mix well, and cool.
5. Package and label.

I subsitute the peanut oil for avocado oil because I read elsewhere that avocado oil is better absorbed. You can buy this in a health food store. Instead of Dermabase, I use Vanicream because I couldn't figure out how to actually buy Dermabase. There was no simple order form.

By using Google, you'll find Vanicream at a bunch of sites, including this link. http://www.medshopexpress.com/10025074.html

I actually screwed up the last batch I made because I was attempting to make a ten percent concentration, but I made the mistake of putting more than 40 mg of oil instead of 20 mg. This made it much too oily, so I had to add a lot more Vanicream, which of course, reduced the percentage. I'm estimating I now have about a 2.5 percent Test cream, which I am using in combination with T shots.

I am leaving the country for the holidays, but when I come back, I plan to order more powders and Vanicream and attempt to make that ten percent cream because I'm beginning to get the impression that Test creams might be more effective for me than Test shots.

Right now, it's just a matter of trial and error in both making the Test cream and finding the right dosage for me.

[JanSz]

Originally Posted by The_Skeptic

I was just curious how the cialis would react by being absorbed directly into the penis, which is the target area anyway. Sometimes Cialis makes me shake, makes my heart beat too fast, turns my face red, etc.

I recently purchased LiquiCia.
There is no instructions how to measure it.
I ended up taking too much, high heart beat and low blood pressure for two days, no particular difference with pines behavior.
You are possibly taking too much Cialis.

[love_en]

Drugs above a certain molecular weight do not pass very well through the skin. No matter how good the transdermal vehicle is or how permeable the application site is. I am not 100% positive, but Cialis might be one of those things that falls into that category. There has got to be a reason why Lily and Pfizer made their dick pills into pills instead of a cream rubbed onto your member when you need an erection.

[Andrew Androgen]

Originally Posted by The_Skeptic

I based my recipe on the following recipe I found online at http://www.paddocklabs.com/forms/sec...volume_8_2.pdf


Rx Testosterone Propionate Cream

Testosterone propionate 2 g
Peanut oil 20 mL
Purified water 8 mL
Dermabase™ qs 100 g

1. Accurately weigh/measure each of the ingredients.
2. Dissolve the testosterone propionate in the peanut oil.
3. Add the Dermabase with gentle heating until softened.
4. Add the purified water, mix well, and cool.
5. Package and label.

I subsitute the peanut oil for avocado oil because I read elsewhere that avocado oil is better absorbed. You can buy this in a health food store. Instead of Dermabase, I use Vanicream because I couldn't figure out how to actually buy Dermabase. There was no simple order form.

By using Google, you'll find Vanicream at a bunch of sites, including this link. http://www.medshopexpress.com/10025074.html

I actually screwed up the last batch I made because I was attempting to make a ten percent concentration, but I made the mistake of putting more than 40 mg of oil instead of 20 mg. This made it much too oily, so I had to add a lot more Vanicream, which of course, reduced the percentage. I'm estimating I now have about a 2.5 percent Test cream, which I am using in combination with T shots.

I am leaving the country for the holidays, but when I come back, I plan to order more powders and Vanicream and attempt to make that ten percent cream because I'm beginning to get the impression that Test creams might be more effective for me than Test shots.

Right now, it's just a matter of trial and error in both making the Test cream and finding the right dosage for me.

Thanks mate. Good find! It surprises me though that they are using test propionate powder instead of test base powder. Are you using the propionate powder?
Btw, I googled dermabase & found a few places that sell it:
http://www.charleneprickett.com/2k/other2k.htm
http://www.pharmacy-online.ca/quick_...eria=DERMABASE
http://www.safesourcerx.com/secure/p....asp?psearch=d
http://www.globaldrugs.com/pharmacy/natnrx.htm

[The_Skeptic]

Originally Posted by Andrew Androgen

Thanks mate. Good find! It surprises me though that they are using test propionate powder instead of test base powder. Are you using the propionate powder?
Btw, I googled dermabase & found a few places that sell it:
http://www.charleneprickett.com/2k/other2k.htm
http://www.pharmacy-online.ca/quick_...eria=DERMABASE
http://www.safesourcerx.com/secure/p....asp?psearch=d
http://www.globaldrugs.com/pharmacy/natnrx.htm

I used both Base And Prop but next time, I will probably switch to just Test Base

[Andrew Androgen]

Originally Posted by The_Skeptic

I based my recipe on the following recipe I found online at http://www.paddocklabs.com/forms/sec...volume_8_2.pdf


Rx Testosterone Propionate Cream

Testosterone propionate 2 g
Peanut oil 20 mL
Purified water 8 mL
Dermabase™ qs 100 g

1. Accurately weigh/measure each of the ingredients.
2. Dissolve the testosterone propionate in the peanut oil.
3. Add the Dermabase with gentle heating until softened.
4. Add the purified water, mix well, and cool.
5. Package and label.

How much of this cream are you supposed to apply each day? How do you measure it out and what % test cream does the above recipe make?
Thanks. [Btw, have you considered using eucalyptus oil instead of avacado oil? I've read that Eucalyptus oil is exceptionally well absorbed and is also an excellent solvent for dissolving the test cream.]