Zinc - something to try before Arimidex

[JustOne]

I read on another forum somewhere that someone had a really high E2 level on TRT, they were taking 30mg of zinc at the time, they upped there dose to 100mg a day or even 150mg a day, cant remember(kicking myself for no saving the url) but it lowered, the level was something like 60pg/ml pg/ml and it was lowered to <30.

The reason I say to try before Arimidex is because high doses of zinc can cause depletion of copper, vitamin a and b vitamins, so the more zinc you take the more of the other vitamins you would have to take and the more strain on your kidneys and liver.

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by JustOne

I read on another forum somewhere that someone had a really high E2 level on TRT, they were taking 30mg of zinc at the time, they upped there dose to 100mg a day or even 150mg a day, cant remember(kicking myself for no saving the url) but it lowered, the level was something like 60pg/ml pg/ml and it was lowered to <30.

The reason I say to try before Arimidex is because high doses of zinc can cause depletion of copper, vitamin a and b vitamins, so the more zinc you take the more of the other vitamins you would have to take and the more strain on your kidneys and liver.

Dr. Shippen talks about this in his book "The Testosterone Syndrome" start at 50mgs/2mgs of copper 2 x's a day for the first 30 days the take one. Yes everyone on TRT should be on Zinc.
http://www.myvitanet.com/zincop100cnt.html

[Sunkist]

Not to mention the prostatic effects and the effluent effects.

[Ramstein II]

Interesting. Zinc is a natural aromatase inhibitor. I believe that's one reason it helps increase T production, not to mention it aids in the pituitary's output of LH and FSH.

But, I'd be careful taking doses over 30mg/day. Zinc will build up over time and I think 30 mg/day is adequate to obtain the benefits at a low risk of Zinc poisoning. Can you "load" it? I don't know. I've always wondered how powerful Zinc is in its inhibition of aromatase. Can't find a study on it.

[Sunkist]

I forgot the anti viral effects too.\

Remember to take a little Cu and Vitamin C as well. I agree 30-50 is max.

[zumper]

Originally Posted by Ramstein II

Interesting. Zinc is a natural aromatase inhibitor. I believe that's one reason it helps increase T production, not to mention it aids in the pituitary's output of LH and FSH.

But, I'd be careful taking doses over 30mg/day. Zinc will build up over time and I think 30 mg/day is adequate to obtain the benefits at a low risk of Zinc poisoning. Can you "load" it? I don't know. I've always wondered how powerful Zinc is in its inhibition of aromatase. Can't find a study on it.

Do you have links/studies,evidence to support this?

[Ramstein II]

That zinc is an aromatase inhibitor is commonly quoted. Here is a link to an article about it that sites a study. Interesting stuff. This article also seriously bashes Nolvadex (as a side note).

http://www.musclephotos.com/zinc.html

[JustOne]

customcapsule.com would be a good choice to make a zinc suppliment
2x a day:
2mg copper
50 mg zinc
1500IU vitamin A
10mg each b vitamin
3mg manganese
300mg magnesium
50mg vitamin c
20mcg selenium
250mg phosphorus

Thats something I would take if I was taking 100mg zinc a day

The body contains about 1.5 to 2.5 g of zinc, of which the kidneys, liver, pancreas, eyes, prostate and
bone contain larger concentrations, however they do not function as zinc reserves, so the body depends
on adequate dietary intake for its daily requirements.
Zinc is lost in sweat and through food processing.

Excessive zinc intake will eventually affect the balance and proper ratios to numerous other important
nutrients that may include iron, calcium, selenium, nickel, phosphorus, copper, as well as Vitamin A, B1,
C, and others

[Andrew Androgen]

If you continue to take 50mg zinc to 2mg copper, you will end up with a copper deficiency.

[masterpp]

Originally Posted by JustOne

I read on another forum somewhere that someone had a really high E2 level on TRT, they were taking 30mg of zinc at the time, they upped there dose to 100mg a day or even 150mg a day, cant remember(kicking myself for no saving the url) but it lowered, the level was something like 60pg/ml pg/ml and it was lowered to <30.

The reason I say to try before Arimidex is because high doses of zinc can cause depletion of copper, vitamin a and b vitamins, so the more zinc you take the more of the other vitamins you would have to take and the more strain on your kidneys and liver.

does that mean the effects of zinc, are comparable to arimadex- is it really that potent

i wonder if i feel like crap because my e2 has gone too low- unlikely as it was in the upper quartile though

[Ramstein II]

Originally Posted by masterpp

does that mean the effects of zinc, are comparable to arimadex- is it really that potent

i wonder if i feel like crap because my e2 has gone too low- unlikely as it was in the upper quartile though

Masterpp, I don't know the answer to this question based on any study, but I doubt zinc comes anywhere near arimidex in potency. Remember, arimidex works "too good" in that it can virtually eliminate estrogen and cause many health problems. I doubt any amount of zinc would do that. Mega doses of zinc would poison you and induce vomitting etc...

Zinc is great for those of us who exercise vigorously. I doesn't so much boost testosterone as it keeps it from dropping. The mechanisms by which it does this probably include anti-aromatase activity, increase in androgen receptors, and adequate nutrition of the pituitary to name a few.

[Rangeball]

Didn't there used to be a sticky here from Swale about the dangers of too much zinc?

Where'd it go?

[pmgamer18]

Originally Posted by Rangeball

Didn't there used to be a sticky here from Swale about the dangers of too much zinc?

Where'd it go?

Do a seach I have been on Zinc/Copper for yrs. I have it checked and my copper and everything is good I take this one pill in the morning.
http://www.myvitanet.com/zincop100cnt.html
Yes Zinc lower Copper but if you take 50mgs of Zinc to 2 mgs. of Copper you should be ok but we all are not the same.

[Naturdoc]

Zinc is a nutrient that is commonly deficient in our diets while copper is plentiful. People taking 30mg of zinc probably do not need to worry about copper. At high doses, 100mg of zinc, it might be prudent to supplement with some copper. Authorities usually quote a zinc to copper intake ratio of 15 -30:1. There is a zinc tally test or taste test that gives some indication of zinc repletion, if you can't taste the zinc solution you probably are not replete. There are also serum blood tests available for both minerals and reference ratio ranges. The most accurate determination is RBC zinc and copper levels.
The best research shows that low zinc levels often result in low testosterone levels. There is less proof (ie. the ZMA report), although some anecdotal evidence, that supraphysiological zinc supplementation may be of benefit for someone with normal zinc levels.
Practitioners will often give large doses for a month or two to saturate the system and then return to a lower maintenance dose.

[edro]

I take a "NOW" brand zinc that has 30mg zinc with 300mcg copper. 10:1 ratio.

It's called 'opti L- zinc'

Ed