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I bought green beans, green peppers and broccoli. Are those good vegetable choices?

Also, I got some almonds and pecans. Good or not? What about the negligible carbs in some foods like eggs, nuts, etc.? Do I count them or ignore them? Let's say I end up picking up another 20 carbs from nuts, then should I lessen the other carbs? I suppose the answer to that is obvious, but I just want to make sure.

If I do keep my protein at 200ish will I be in danger of losing muscle or will everythign be kosher?
I Dont know about being kosher, I suppose it depends on what store you shop at.

Count all carbs, regardless of source.

I can eat a ton of Twizzlers but usually start feeling sick after the first pound or pound and a half.
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Since I was winging it yesterday I didn't realize how hard this is. Today I've been writing it all down and I see I've only eaten 3100 calories today. I guess I'm going to have to drink more oil or something, but is it bad to not make it up to 4000?
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Oh yeah, I forgot. YOu had said to start the carb up after my workout and then continue it for 24hrs. What if I just started it in the morning? It seems too difficult to do it the other way.
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Oh yeah, I forgot. YOu had said to start the carb up after my workout and then continue it for 24hrs. What if I just started it in the morning? It seems too difficult to do it the other way.
It depends on what time your workout is. You could take in about 50-75g of carbs within a few hours of your workout. That would actually help your refeed.

4k low-carb calories might be difficult, as you found out. Just shoot for 3500-4k and you should be fine. You could add in more oil or maybe a little fattier cut of meat/ground beef, or some nuts.
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Aside from the mental release, how essential is the carb up? Does it help the diet or just help the fat-inclined, such as myself, deal with not eating anything yummy?
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the carb up is 100% mandatory, no exceptions.
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Ok. Why is that?

I actually decided to carb up before I read this because the sugar plum fairies were dancing in my head. A bag of jumbo vines and a box of pasta should more or less cover it. I may add some more yummies, but we'll see.
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Thats not a big enough carb load, actually.

A carb-up helps with various hormone levels, nutrient partitioning, psychologically is it helpful. The main thing are the hormones and partititioning, which in turn helps with fat loss and some muscle gain (or at least prevents/slows loss).
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Bumping this up for reference sake for all the people who want to know about keto diets.
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Bumping this up for reference sake for all the people who want to know about keto diets.

Bob def has been a huge help in planning. I was going by the old keto and eating way too much fat during the week and the refeed. actually excited to see how much by bf has dropped in 3 weeks. only 1 of the weeks was done exactly right though. I ate so many damn girl scout cookies the first refeed i almost exploded.
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