Alright, Bob, let's get this ball rolling

[Grizzly]

Fat during the refeed is bad. However, fat during the week is encouraged. I don't understand what you mean by "too much fat during the week."

That's one of the principles of a keto diet. Kill the carbs and eat plenty of fat to keep energy levels high and also to stave off catabolism.

IIRC, I'm eating between 175-225g of fat/day.

[Bob Smith]

Nope, you can do low fat, low carb and moderately high protein.

Roughly 40g of fat during a refeed is a good amount.

[res]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Nope, you can do low fat, low carb and moderately high protein.

Roughly 40g of fat during a refeed is a good amount.

the new keto book recommends during the week, cut maint cals in half. for me that is around 1400 ed. if i keep protein at 1-1.5 gr per lb of lean muscle, that is about 225 grams. plus 25 or so gr of carbs and you have 1000 cal. that leaves 400 cal from fat or 44 grams. Please tell me Bob or grizz if i am going about it all wrong.

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Nope, you can do low fat, low carb and moderately high protein.

Roughly 40g of fat during a refeed is a good amount.

Hmmm, that's interesting. Maybe that works with lighter people only, then. I've done low carb (100ish), high protein and low fat. It came out to about 2500 cal/day. As one would expect, a fair amount of muscle would be lost doing that.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

Hmmm, that's interesting. Maybe that works with lighter people only, then. I've done low carb (100ish), high protein and low fat. It came out to about 2500 cal/day. As one would expect, a fair amount of muscle would be lost doing that.

As one would expect, youre wrong.

res, your diet looks good. I would do 1.25g pro, 50g carbs and the rest (about 40g) as good fats.

[finafreak]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

As one would expect, youre wrong.

res, your diet looks good. I would do 1.25g pro, 50g carbs and the rest (about 40g) as good fats.

Hey Bob,wanted to thank you for the positive comment on my thread.


finafreak

[Bob Smith]

no prob, just passing along the info I found

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

As one would expect, youre wrong.

So, then after the intitial fatloss I experienced, when I dropped 15lbs without a concurrent shift in bodyfat I didn't lose muscle?

[Bob Smith]

I just reread your post. You are correct but you cut your calories way too low. It wasnt the low fat/low card aspect of the diet, it was eating way too few calories for a guy your size. Plus, without a refeed you are at a mucher greater likelihood for losing muscle. A combination of no refeed and too low calories is a bad idea.

[Grizzly]

Well, that was my point. Then again, I guess low fat is relative. I was getting maybe 70g/day. That's why I said that I believed it might only work for a lighter guy. Perhpas, if I had used 100g/day, it might have worked better.

Every couple of weeks I would end up refeeding, though it was a shitty refeed(pizza, ice cream, pie, fried chicken, etc) that really equated to more of a 10k calorie binge. LOL