How to get rid of stubborn fat? Advice?

[soulpower]

phreezer suggested i move my post here so here goes...

hey guys. soulpower here. used to be a regular poster about 3 years ago. time flies...

got one of many rants i'd like to share and hopefully somebody can help a bruddah out.

me: 6'0" currently 182lbs (83 kilos), born endomorph. been weightlifting somewhat consistently since i was 15 (about 17 years).

anyway i've always been a skinny f*ck, but in 2002-3 for about a year i went ape shit and trained religiously 3 times a week with a dude 100 pounds heavier than me. added a little winny and tren along the way, got up to 185 lbs, lifting pretty good weights for my size. it was great.

fast forward- i move to japan, and in 6 months of crappy diet and NO TRAINING (no money for good food or gym here- too expensive) i expectedly drop all the way to 170. blah.

i get a good job and start working out again in March. now i am up to 182, lifting ok weight on the bench but quite weak everywhere else (expected).

problem is during all this time my gut just keeps getting bigger and bigger. i always make room for some ab exercises (torso twists or exercise ball crunches). mind you my diet is probably sh*t and i have a desk job so this is more than likely a cause.

so i started clen. NOTHING. absolutely nothing. even with cutting down on the carbs.... hmmm... what gives?

i have tried weighted crunches and such but IMHO they make by ab muscles BIGGER instead of keeping them in...

ok- diet: in japan not much of a choice.
usually:
breakfast (8:30AM)
toast/protein shake/cereal (corn flakes)

Lunch (1:30PM)
eat out with co-workers, usually japanese food or occasionally curry all-you-can-eat

Snack (5pm)
protein bar (japanese crappy ones with like 7g protein)

dinner (8PM, yes 8pm, too long to go without eating but i get off at 7 and want to eat with the wife)
something made by the wife, usually japanese style mix meat and veggies with rice or sometimes soba

workout schedule: t/th/sa/sun, usually not much time so i do mentzer-ish workouts with usually one warmup set and one heavy set for 6-8 reps per exercise, 3-5 exercises per bodypart.

anyway back to the main rant... nothing i do can get rid of this nasty layer of fat... grrr... be happy if anyone could offer my some non-flame suggestions.

[Bob Smith]

Well, your diet looks to be low protein, high carb. That isnt exactly a good setup for dropping fat. Without changing that around and getting in some good workouts, nothings gonna change.

[maddzz]

I also dont see any type of cardio in your routine. Do you do any?

[GRANVILLE]

Originally Posted by soulpower

phreezer suggested i move my post here so here goes...

hey guys. soulpower here. used to be a regular poster about 3 years ago. time flies...

got one of many rants i'd like to share and hopefully somebody can help a bruddah out.

me: 6'0" currently 182lbs (83 kilos), born endomorph. been weightlifting somewhat consistently since i was 15 (about 17 years).

anyway i've always been a skinny f*ck, but in 2002-3 for about a year i went ape shit and trained religiously 3 times a week with a dude 100 pounds heavier than me. added a little winny and tren along the way, got up to 185 lbs, lifting pretty good weights for my size. it was great.

fast forward- i move to japan, and in 6 months of crappy diet and NO TRAINING (no money for good food or gym here- too expensive) i expectedly drop all the way to 170. blah.

i get a good job and start working out again in March. now i am up to 182, lifting ok weight on the bench but quite weak everywhere else (expected).

problem is during all this time my gut just keeps getting bigger and bigger. i always make room for some ab exercises (torso twists or exercise ball crunches). mind you my diet is probably sh*t and i have a desk job so this is more than likely a cause.

so i started clen. NOTHING. absolutely nothing. even with cutting down on the carbs.... hmmm... what gives?

i have tried weighted crunches and such but IMHO they make by ab muscles BIGGER instead of keeping them in...

ok- diet: in japan not much of a choice.
usually:
breakfast (8:30AM)
toast/protein shake/cereal (corn flakes)

Lunch (1:30PM)
eat out with co-workers, usually japanese food or occasionally curry all-you-can-eat

Snack (5pm)
protein bar (japanese crappy ones with like 7g protein)

dinner (8PM, yes 8pm, too long to go without eating but i get off at 7 and want to eat with the wife)
something made by the wife, usually japanese style mix meat and veggies with rice or sometimes soba

workout schedule: t/th/sa/sun, usually not much time so i do mentzer-ish workouts with usually one warmup set and one heavy set for 6-8 reps per exercise, 3-5 exercises per bodypart.

anyway back to the main rant... nothing i do can get rid of this nasty layer of fat... grrr... be happy if anyone could offer my some non-flame suggestions.

I'm a skinny wretch like you, 6foot and 175lbs, I can easily get down to 10% b/f and still have a covering on my abs, tried lipostabil on the area, and after 5 sets of jabs my abs are back to what they are when I get down to 7-8% b/f, b'f back up to 12% just to gain some weight on my legs and ass, but still got the low b/f style abs. Using lipostabil seems to be a bit controversial, but if you get it from the right places it works well, don't know how old you are, but my ab fat started to grow when I reached 35, am 40 now and in better shape

[GDSGFT]

More protein - less carbs. Do more cardio and work your stomach ED.

Or you can try... *drum roll* DNP! But you're not a big guy, it seems like your bf is mainly sitting in ur gut.

[Rod]

Originally Posted by GDSGFT

More protein - less carbs. Do more cardio and work your stomach ED.

Or you can try... *drum roll* DNP! But you're not a big guy, it seems like your bf is mainly sitting in ur gut.

Adderall & t3 work wonders

[Grizzly]

What good will working his "stomach" everyday do? Please, please, please, please don't tell me that it will reduce the fat around his waist.

[GDSGFT]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

What good will working his "stomach" everyday do? Please, please, please, please don't tell me that it will reduce the fat around his waist.

It wont?! Fuck, so much for that idea! *nurses his fat gut* Bah, I don't care, my gut is sexy! GET IN MA BELLYYYYYYYY!

[AJay]

What's Adderall???
thanks
AJay

[Peace Division]

Originally Posted by AJay

What's Adderall???
thanks
AJay

If you have to ask, you don't wanna know!

[soulpower]

Originally Posted by GRANVILLE

I'm a skinny wretch like you, 6foot and 175lbs, I can easily get down to 10% b/f and still have a covering on my abs, tried lipostabil on the area, and after 5 sets of jabs my abs are back to what they are when I get down to 7-8% b/f, b'f back up to 12% just to gain some weight on my legs and ass, but still got the low b/f style abs. Using lipostabil seems to be a bit controversial, but if you get it from the right places it works well, don't know how old you are, but my ab fat started to grow when I reached 35, am 40 now and in better shape

I might have to do that... I am 32, the ab fat started to appear after 30, big surprise.

i am now and have been on clen. does nothing except make me shake like a coke fiend. t3 have also done, no results.

usually no cardio, just started doing some at the end of my workouts (15min. stepper). will have to up that time though.

i think my workout is good for what i want to do, keep mass, don't necessarily have to be ripped all over but this fat pouch is quite a bother. anybody feel me?

[GRANVILLE]

Originally Posted by soulpower

I might have to do that... I am 32, the ab fat started to appear after 30, big surprise.

i am now and have been on clen. does nothing except make me shake like a coke fiend. t3 have also done, no results.

usually no cardio, just started doing some at the end of my workouts (15min. stepper). will have to up that time though.

i think my workout is good for what i want to do, keep mass, don't necessarily have to be ripped all over but this fat pouch is quite a bother. anybody feel me?

Snap, if I use a thermogenic, I lose fat, get the shakes, but still keep my stomach!!! I'm still gaining a bit of weight and probably a bit of fat, but my abs are still good, sculpt your body with lipostabil just on the areas you want to improve and that aren't touched by the thermogenics.

[soulpower]

Originally Posted by GRANVILLE

Snap, if I use a thermogenic, I lose fat, get the shakes, but still keep my stomach!!! I'm still gaining a bit of weight and probably a bit of fat, but my abs are still good, sculpt your body with lipostabil just on the areas you want to improve and that aren't touched by the thermogenics.

thanks, but from what i've seen it's hard to tell what is real lipo... and who is a reliable supplier...

[GRANVILLE]

Originally Posted by soulpower

thanks, but from what i've seen it's hard to tell what is real lipo... and who is a reliable supplier...

Lets just say the clinic where I do research have changed their supplier to Zipmed, and they use alot of the stuff, dont let the fact that Beef was selling lecithin as lipo put you off, if you buy from a reputable lab, you have guarantees, have fun.

[KOMT]

lipostabil = scam.

remember, if its too good to be true, it probably is.