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Old 06-10-2006, 01:39 PM
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Up until today , I thought GH and IGF 1 were like pretty much the same thing?
Is one better than the other? and what about the nutrition store secretagogues? are they worth anything? I bought some Pinnacle Alpha Dopa Poppers recently and plan to use them while I am starting Anavar for the first time. Is this a good idea?
Actually what supps are good to take with Anavar?
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Can take anything you want with Var .. Var is great for strength and vascularity and no water because no buildup of estrogen ... Even at very low doses too ... Increases in IGF is the reason HGH is good for size but HGH is better than IGF for fat lose so they say .. IGF is better for size but unless you have a good source for either your going to either get ripped or pay way too much .. AAS would be a better choice for most .. I get IGF1 long R for $50/mg and HGH for $1.80-$1.60/IU but my HGH is 192aa which some would rather 191 . so i have a great source for many things but i guess we can't have it all .. The great thing is, i can ask for a good HGH source 191aa and probably get it .. the great thing about having friends i can trust .
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Up until today , I thought GH and IGF 1 were like pretty much the same thing?
Is one better than the other? and what about the nutrition store secretagogues? are they worth anything? I bought some Pinnacle Alpha Dopa Poppers recently and plan to use them while I am starting Anavar for the first time. Is this a good idea?
Actually what supps are good to take with Anavar?
Secretagogues are worthless.

Arginine has been shown to increase growth hormone but for practical purposes it's worthless too, primarily because you need to take a dose that is so massive that it is guaranteed to cause severe gastrointestinal distress. I suspect that intravenous arginine can actually be quite useful but can't find a source for it.
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Secretagogues are worthless.

Arginine has been shown to increase growth hormone but for practical purposes it's worthless too, primarily because you need to take a dose that is so massive that it is guaranteed to cause severe gastrointestinal distress. I suspect that intravenous arginine can actually be quite useful but can't find a source for it.
What about just IM arginine? That's what you mean by IV i guess .. in the muscle and into the blood not really direcly IV right? ... I think i can brew some up for you .. let me see how it works
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I am most definately female
I posted a question in the AAS forum (Anavar for first time) so please help me out if you can.
My pic is in the gallery. I have been training and competing for a few years.
5'5" 127, 18%bf or so.

I guess I'll give the Alpha Dopa Poppers to my dog

MANWHORE it must be nice to have somany good 'friends'
Lucky you..
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MANWHORE it must be nice to have somany good 'friends'
Lucky you..
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OK and you let me know when your in Jersey so i can buy you a drink nice body, by the way .. Any front shoots or nud.... front shots lol ...

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I will put up some front shots later. No face though (which is sad becasue it is my best feature) but I can' t risk getting 'discovered' now can I.
and no nudity (sorry)But I'll give you a call when I am on the east coast

Looks like you guys aren't short on nudity around here anyway:0
You guys keep me entertained. Little did you know

I was just looking at the thread "which oxandrolone is best?" and you said somehting aout getting it from UG? not to be a retard ..
but what does that mean? I still haven't decided where I am getting mine from


OK I just saw you told someone else it means "underground". Makes sense...

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UG means under ground.

UG is homebrew. Its powder that people get and mix with a bunch of types of oil and alcohol. And you got yourself home made AAS.
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