Looking for a 4000Calorie Intake

[pattala]

Hi
Just started lifting last week.Took a bit getting into the swing of things as i am now 36yo and never lifted before.(The Forum has definitely helped me) Anyway I posted a thread last week about what AAS to take as i was only starting out.And after some response i was advised not to bother for a while.I was told to EAT BIG and LIFT BIG and Sleep.Which i am trying to do.I had set out to take a daily intake of 4000 Calories.However i am finding this hard to complete.Could someone give me a typical diet from morning to night that would help me accomplish 4000k.There is only so much Tuna i can force into me...I have bought some (Whey Protein shakes that i take twice a day),
Many Thanks
Alan

[andysutils]

Hi and welcome to meso.
whoever told you to stay away from the gear gave you the right advice, you will not be needing them as you grow like a weed anyway in your first year or so.

As for a diet, what are your current stats as in weight, height bf?

anyway as for diet, theres 2 ways to do it, you can get your high cals from carbs or protein.

I personally just eat whatever I want as fat aint an issue for me but for eating clean, heres an example of what mine was when intaking high carbs, i choose to get most from carbs as I find they give me better energy than fats do.

Breakfast

4 whole eggs
1 banana
1 tspoon peanut butter
1 scoop whey powder

Mid morning
120g sardines
1 apple
1 tspoon peanut butter

Lunch
200g chicken breast
300g sweet potato
mixed veggies

Preworkout
50g oats
1 banana
1 tspoon peanut butter
1 scoop whey powder

Afterworkout
80g dextrose
1 scoop whey powder

Dinner
steak or chicken breast with mixed veggies


Evening
100g oats
1 tspoon peanut butter


Bed
150g oats
2 tspoons peanut butter
1 scoop whey powder

Cals=4047 Fats=117 Carbs=503 prot=270

Now a lot of people will gain a lot of fat on teh abvoe diet but for a skinny ecto like me thats not a problem.

however if you find thats to much carbs and you gain to much fat from that, drop the carbs and up the fats or protein.

alternately i found i couldnt stomach that mant carbs all year round so id drop them to around 350 and up my fat and protein intake a little.


Also bare in mind you might not be able to stomach 4000cals a day to start with nor would I try to personally.
Start with 3000 cals a day and up the intake by 200-300 cals per week as after a few weeks of training you should find your appetite really starts to rise anyway providing your not overtraining.

Hope this helps

[pattala]

Andy thanks for getting back to me!(sorry i was away for a couple of days) .Mate that sounds spot on i will try that out,and get back to you.If i have any more concerns do you mind me getting in touch?
Many Thanks
Alan

[andysutils]

Course not, thats what im here for

[RuFlz]

You have to work up to it... But a Mass gainer shake could get you some help.. There are some that are 1600 calories with 24oz of milk..

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by RuFlz

You have to work up to it... But a Mass gainer shake could get you some help.. There are some that are 1600 calories with 24oz of milk..

most of them junk buckets depend if you want lean mass or fatass?

I dont see anyway them sugar coated things make you gain any lean mass any quicker than real food does, one of the benefits are when your out on the go.

I only ever used one weight gainer in my life that came close to gaining clean weight and its the only one i ever used that made me gain weight full stop and that was NLARGE2.