blacks should be paid reparations

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by jasthace

It might verywell be faster & cheaper to pay reparations

Then I want reparations because Im Irish and Irish immigrants were discriminated against.

,and start to acknowlege them for some of the great feats that they have done,

Isnt that what Black History Month is for?

I dont think any group (blacks, women, mexicans, whites, etc) should be given any special previlege over anyone else, regardless of what their long-ago history is.

[Grizzly]

That's true, you Irish bastard. There were signs in stores that said "Irish need not apply". That's what I tell my Irish Catholic(WTF am I doing with her???) girlfriend stuff like that all the time. I tell her, "you damned Irish, I don't like your kind around here" and then my mother says, "but YOU'RE Irish" and I say, "so, I still hate those McBastards!"

Same with every immigrant group, actually. There's some law in NY, I believe, that places limits on times bakeries can operate. This is because the Italians(but it might be the other way around) who were already in this country didn't want to work as hard or long or as much as the German immigrants who were moving in, so they had a law passed to "keep the krauts under control".

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by greyowl

I'd like to point out another effect of this sort of talk. Dionysius, one of the newer members here, has made it clear that he hates Jews and blacks, but he won't come out and say so directly because he doesn't have the strength of character to admit it in public. Building threads like this provides cover for people him to maker smartass racist remarks. In the meantime, they discourage blacks and others. That's why we hardly have black members left, and I'm sure it's why people like Oldtimer don't post anymore (it's been a month since he lasted posted).

If the current trend continues, eventually this Board will have lots of people like Dionysius and Taser, and few if any people like Oldtimer. Is that what you want Meso to become? I'll point out that this is exactly what happened to the UG Board, and why it went under.

Think about it.

Wow, I would like to know what comments I made that were so bad as to deserve all that! I dont hate anybody, as long as they treat me with the same respect that I give them.
Anyway, I was not aware that some people were so sensative. I couldnt care less what anyone says about me or my race. If I don't like what they say, I ignore it.

As far as your false allegations of hate toward jews,
I have been interested politically in the effect of neoconservativism on American politics. It is a subject that I feel deserves some learning about, as I feel most good conservative people are not aware of the true source of it.
My research has lead me to certain conclusions about the nature and origin of the neocons and their agendas.
Just because I point out these facts makes me a hater?
Interesting.

::edit:: Please make reference to the posts that make it so clear that I hate all blacks and jews. ((???))

[greyowl]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

::edit:: Please make reference to the posts that make it so clear that I hate all blacks and jews. ((???))

Quote:=greyowl
Desi, if you would just stop and think about history for a moment, why do you think Jewish people might be more prone than other groups to distrust governments?


QUOTE=Dionysus
Maybe because they are so prone to corruption and fraud that they don't trust anyone!!

...oops that just sorta slipped out, sorry.

[Dionysus]

And that has what to do with hating blacks and jews?

Jewish propensity toward corruption and fraud was not my idea. That notion predates me by hundreds if not thousands of years. Its not my fault.

And, it certainly does not mean I hate anyone.

Are you Jewish?
My jewish friends are no where near this sensative over comments like that. They actually have a sense of humor.

[jasthace]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

No, I don't think so, Jasthace.

Maybe you should ask a woman. That is who you were referring to, wasn't it? That sounds just like everything they've had in their collective experiences.

Yes,those were the days,if a black person come across a puddle in the street the nearest gentleman would lay down his jacket for them to pass over.
Or if a man spoke rudely to a black person a gentleman would stand up and fight for there honour.
Black people weren't to worry their pretty little heads about politics and the ways of the world for theirs was a sheltered life under the wing of their gentleman keeper.

Or in contrasting reality,if a "Black Man" ever spoke rudely to a white woman or looked at her in a wrong or upsetting way,he would more then likely spend the rest of the day being strapped to a tree whipped and/or being dragged around behind a horse or car until his pittyful{unpittyful}end.
Then a group of men with white hoods would make sure to turn up at his place or residence and see to it that it and any other inhabitants were promptly burnt to the ground.

Yeah I don't really know what the problem is with these black people ?
Why dont the just fit straight into society,what is their problem?

[gixxerboy]

first of i agree with grizz.

But would cutting a check. Magically blacks would feel like part of society. It would solve the problems of poverty and education problems.

I'm not black so i cant say. But do blacks honestly walk around saying that man we we slaves 50 years ago? This sucks

Tell me honestly that it wont mean that more blacks wont have 22's.

[Grizzly]

Women were kept as property. Ther are laws still on the books detailing in which ways it is legal to beat them and which ways it's not. They were kept out of the job market. They WANTED to vote, but were kept from it. If a woman "disrespected her man" she got beaten. I see you've never gotten past "Wuthering Heights".

Immigrants? Shiiiit, they were dogs. Beaten, discriminated against, kept from gaining any employment, housing, anything.

Tell me, Jasthace, should I as a Pole petition the dagos for reparations since the etymology of the word "slave" comes from the enslavement of the Slavs during the Roman Empire?

[Bob Smith]

As a Christian, I want reparations from Italians since they fed my people to the lions for entertainment.

[van-man]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

As a Christian, I want reparations from Italians since they fed my people to the lions for entertainment.

Hahaha! too bad its a spiritual heratige and not biological or we might have a case.

Hell I'm a shrewd business man, I'd settle out of court for one of them fancy 'I' talian sports cars!

[jasthace]

Originally Posted by gixxerboy

do blacks honestly walk around saying that man we we slaves 50 years ago? .

Whats up my n*****?

[jasthace]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

Tell me, Jasthace, should I as a Pole petition the dagos for reparations since the etymology of the word "slave" comes from the enslavement of the Slavs during the Roman Empire?

It might pay to "forget about it"

But I see your point,get over it,move on,make the best of what you can at the present time.
Dont hold a grudge because you were under once.

I'm, just trying to get my head around why they really are in the prison system at such a disproportontate rate.
Are they just plain disproportionalty bad,do you say?

Will Smith is playing in a movie coming out soon,about a black guy off the streets in America, who somehow miraculously makes it in the big time business arena.
So he goes back to South Africa for a charity and is welcomed by Nelson Mandela himself, Nelson says to him " Welcome home son" even though he has never been there before and the man breaks down in tears.
What is with that?
He seems to think he is returning home from enslavement.
Remember the "Roots" mini series,when Cunta Kentia's{Toby} Desendants went back to Africa,it was the same tearfull repatriation.?
I dont know, but I think there is some thing in it that we are not considering or taking seriously.

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by jasthace

It might pay to "forget about it"

But I see your point,get over it,move on,make the best of what you can at the present time.
Dont hold a grudge because you were under once..

How can I forget about it? Everytime the word "slave" is mentioned, I have to acknowledge the enslavement of my ancestors. Whether we're talking about whites, browns, blacks or yellows being slaves, I have to know "my peoples'" history.

NOT! I'm over it and don't give a fuck, just like everyone esle should be. There isn't a people alive who havent' been enslaved at some point. Nut up, bitches!

The problem, Jasthace, is that no one alive was "under once". The worst thing that people who are still alive had to deal with was segregation, and that doesn't apply to anyone under the age of 50. And it doesn't really account for too much of northern blacks at all. That was, primarily, a Southern thing. Not that it didn't happen in the North, it just wasn't as pronounced.

The reason that there are a disporportionate amount of blacks in jail is racist cops. LMMFAO! Ok, not really, It's a cultural thing. Crime and "being respected as a man"(aka, a violent criminal) is commonplace, accepted and expected.

I can see where the drug trade could be quite alluring. All of your friends are wearing jewelry and getting laid and whatnot. Seems like making a few quick thousands might be much better than that $7/hr job bagging groceries. Of course, I always have been and still am the poorest of my friends, and I've never resorted to illegal activities as a means of income, so.....

The funny thing is is that black Americans think they have it bad here and they yearn for their roots in Africa, which is, quite possibly, the poorest continent on Earth. They'd go there for 20 minutes and find out that fried chicken and Nikes will never again be theirs and immediately turn around and go back to the terribly oppressed lives that we white devils make them lead.

I'm smart enough to know that going to Poland to be with "my people" would be a really shitty idea. Do you know why the Chicagoland area has more Polishes than any other area in the world, excludind Warsaw? Because life in Poland sucks ass!

I had an ex-girfriend who was ultra-Polish, with relatives and shit over there. She and her family mailed their old clothes to them because their relatives couldn't afford decent clothing.

Do you know why Gixxerboy's old lady is in the United States and doesn't feel ashamed to be a stripper? Because she's making more in 2 hours than her whole family does in a month in Poland!

One of my MMA training partners is from Poland. Only he and his brother are here. They left Poland because they wanted money and stuff. His mother works in a bank. In America,as well as Poland, that's a pretty decent job. The difference between the two is that your average bank worker in America will make 400/wk and his mother makes 400/MONTH in Poland.

There's a damned good reason that there's a lot of people moving TO the US, but very few moving out of the US.

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by jasthace

ISo he goes back to South Africa for a charity and is welcomed by Nelson Mandela himself, Nelson says to him " Welcome home son" even though he has never been there before and the man breaks down in tears.
What is with that?
He seems to think he is returning home from enslavement.
.

It's collectivist bullshit! It's the same reason that "diversity" is defined as having multiple colors of people in one place. That definition of "diversity" is racist in and of itself. It's saying that there is a fundamental difference between people based solely on the color of their skin. This board is predominatnly white, yet it is still diverse as all get out. Diversity has nothing to do with skin color.

I think I got off track a bit.... The point is, your "home" is not from whence one of "your people" came 300 years ago. An American black is no more African than I am.

For all of their insistance that color shouldn't matter, blacks sure have a way of making EVERYTHING about the color of a person's skin. Just read Swing's posts.

[gixxerboy]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

I'm smart enough to know that going to Poland to be with "my people" would be a really shitty idea. Do you know why the Chicagoland area has more Polishes than any other area in the world, excludind Warsaw? Because life in Poland sucks ass!

I had an ex-girfriend who was ultra-Polish, with relatives and shit over there. She and her family mailed their old clothes to them because their relatives couldn't afford decent clothing.

Do you know why Gixxerboy's old lady is in the United States and doesn't feel ashamed to be a stripper? Because she's making more in 2 hours than her whole family does in a month in Poland!

One of my MMA training partners is from Poland. Only he and his brother are here. They left Poland because they wanted money and stuff. His mother works in a bank. In America,as well as Poland, that's a pretty decent job. The difference between the two is that your average bank worker in America will make 400/wk and his mother makes 400/MONTH in Poland.

There's a damned good reason that there's a lot of people moving TO the US, but very few moving out of the US.

Very true. She packs a large box just about every month of clothes and toys and send it back to Poland. Everyone in her family asks her for money because they don't have much there. She is like the Bank of Agnieszka. A couple of her Uncles will come her for a 3month Visa work and send all the money back, They can make more in 3 months here then a Year in Poland. And they are just working as labor for construction