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10-01-2004, 03:48 PM
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 Interesting facts about IRAQ
DID YOU KNOW? 1. The garden of Eden was in Iraq. 2. Mesopotamia, which is now Iraq, was the cradle of civilization! 3. Noah built the ark in Iraq. 4. The Tower of Babel was in Iraq. 5. Abraham was from Ur, which is in Southern Iraq! 6. Isaac's wife Rebekah is from Nahor, which is in Iraq. 7. Jacob met Rachel in Iraq. 8. Jonah preached in Nineveh - which is in Iraq. 9. Assyria, which is in Iraq, conquered the ten tribes of Israel. 10. Amos cried out in Iraq! 11. Babylon, which is in Iraq, destroyed Jerusalem. 12. Daniel was in the lion's den in Iraq! 13. The three Hebrew children were in the fire in Iraq (Jesus had been in Iraq also as the fourth person in the fiery furnace!) 14. Belshazzar, the King of Babylon saw the "writing on the wall" in Iraq. 15. Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon, carried the Jews captive into Iraq. 16. Ezekiel preached in Iraq. 17. The wise men were from Iraq. 18. Peter preached in Iraq. 19. The "Empire of Man" described in Revelation are called Babylon, which was a city in Iraq! And you have probably seen this one. Israel is the nation most often mentioned in the Bible. But do you know which nation is second? It is Iraq! However, that is not the name that is used in the Bible. The names used inthe Bible are Babylon, Land of Shinar, and Mesopotamia. The word Mesopotamia means between the two rivers, more exactly between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers. The name Iraq, means country with deep roots. Indeed Iraq is a country with deep roots and is a very significant country in the Bible. No other nation, except Israel, has more history and prophecy associated it than Iraq. And also... This is something to think about! Since America is typically represented by an eagle. Saddam should have read up on his Muslim passages... The following verse is from the Koran, (the Islamic Bible) Koran (9:11) - For it is written that a son of Arabia would awaken a fearsome Eagle. The wrath of the Eagle would be felt throughout the lands of Allah and lo, while some of the people trembled in despair still more rejoiced; for the wrath of the Eagle cleansed the lands of Allah; and there was peace. (Note the verse number!) ~Senior Thumbs~
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10-01-2004, 04:29 PM
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excellent post bro
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10-01-2004, 04:45 PM
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Interesting information but I have to take issue with the Quran passage. Chapter 9 verse 11 actually says "But if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, they are your brethren in faith; and we make the communications clear for a people who know." |
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10-01-2004, 05:01 PM
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the Koran verse is a fake, but the rest is all true. If you want to be really freaked out by something true though, read Daniel chapter 9. Also, Suddam H. believes he is the reincarnation of Nebuchadnezzar, and Iraq's bordes haven't changed a smidge, it is exactly Babylon as it was thousands of years ago. From the bible. Daniel has a vision in chapter 8 of a Male goat 'pushing to the south' (Kuwait). A RAM see's this and is angered, going across the face of the whole earth without touching the ground, to attack the goat. Scholars have always interpreted this as Alexander the Great and Antiochus Epiphenes, BUT, they don't fulfill the 'not touching the ground' aspect, which ONLY the US could possibly do... we left both coasts, traveling by boat and air, not touching the ground. There are two horns on the ram, which the angel tells Daniel, are two kings (George Sr. And George W.). The first king doesn't quite get the job done, you need two... so Jr. finally caught Suddam, and here we are with a new govt. being formed in Iraq, 13 years later. God showed me this in 1990, and I told everyone we would be going to war with Iraq in 1991 (see psalm 91... psalms is the 19th book of the bible, and each psalm is a prophetic view of history in the 1900's. See for instance, psalm 46, after WWII, "The Lord spoke and the earth melted, and he caused all of the kings of the earth to cease their fighting). Psalm 91 (most of them are about Israel, which makes sense of course) says many things, such as "Arrows will fly, but they will not come near thee". There's more... There is so much here, I'd have to write a really long note on this stuff, but suffice it to say, God told us what was going to happen, and the next thing after this is Daniel chapter 9, which is the coming of the anti-christ. Quote:
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10-01-2004, 05:22 PM
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Many urban legends here man.. 1 example of the posts inaccuracy is ; the garden of eden, according to the Bible is at the junction of the tigress and the euphrates river,,,that is in the almost dead center of the persian gulf . |
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10-01-2004, 06:12 PM
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Almost all of those are urban myths, considering 90% either havent even been proven to have occured or there is no evidence as to where it took place. Also, I have read the Bible several times, and I have never seen Iraq mentioned once! Also, it would be more appropriate to say that Iraq was in Babylon, because Babylon was HUGE!
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10-01-2004, 06:12 PM
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damn, thats some crazy stuff. i dont know too much about the bible, but if even half of the stuff neodavid said is true then im kinda freaked out. im going to try to find a bible and read David chapt. 9, i want to read this anit-christ stuff
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10-01-2004, 06:54 PM
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Here are the verses, the first part if the vision, the second part is the angels interpretation, letting Daniel know what his vision meant. My comments are in asterisks. Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last. *** I got the ram and goat mixed up, sorry! After these verses, an angel interprets the vision for Daniel. *** {4} I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great. **** Dual fulfillment prophecies are common, partial fulfillment (with Antiochus Epiphenes and Alexander the great back a few thousand years, and now we completely fulfill it as the US 'touches not the ground', attacking Babylon (Iraq). **** {5} And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes. {6} And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power. {7} And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand. **** this is where we are now **** {8} Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. *** this is where we are heading. Antichrist. *** {9} And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. {10} And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. {11} Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. *** This happened with Antiochus Epiphenes, a guy who was 'an' antichrist (the bible says there will be many, but ONE, the real one, in the end). We are heading towards the real guy now. *** *** here is the angels interpretation. A key phrase is "I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be." In other translations, it more clearly states, "This shall occur at the end times". Also useful to know is we are the sons of Japheth, and even our alphabet is based on the greek, along with our 'democracy' and the city states of ancient greece. The medes and persians are from Babylon (Iraq), and Iran (used to be Persia.) *** And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man. {16} And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision. {17} So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision. {18} Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright. {19} And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be. {20} The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. {21} And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. {22} Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. {23} And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. {24} And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. {25} And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. {26} And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
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10-01-2004, 06:59 PM
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Nope, Babylon's borders haven't changed for thousands of years. It did control the entire world, however, but more like Brittain, who's borders never changed, they just took over the known world piece by piece and left the borders intact. Whether they have been 'proven' in your eyes or not isn't cogent. They are mentioned in the bible, and that's all we are talking about. The reason you've read the bible and not seen Iraq, is that it used to be named Babylon. See ancient maps, listed in some bibles, but also available on the web and at the library. The wise men being from Iraq isn't provable, but they are mentioned as being 'from the east', which is where Iraq is... I didn't bother with arguing these, as some people believe in it, and it's not a point of concern theologically. Quote:
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10-01-2004, 08:14 PM
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Assuming all of the asserted points were true, I don't get the point of the post. Is it to say that since it is the "Christian motherland" that the US, presumed as a Christian entity, is entitled to swallow Iraq up in a Crusade-esque manner or is it to say that since Iraq has such "great" religious history that it shouldn't be fucked with. I don't get it.
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10-01-2004, 09:53 PM
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Babylonia was the empire (the large version known as Neo-Babylonia) and Babylon, the capital city, was indeed in Iraq.
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10-01-2004, 09:59 PM
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From now on Neodavid will be known as "Thread-Killer" because that is what he is. Just a contentious human being, who hangs out with God on girls couches and teases us by saying God told him to leave, but then for some reason just wont stop posting. P.S. You are damn right it is cogent. Read the thread title, it says interesting "facts," so I believe proof would be an important factor in discussing these issues.
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