UAW might not be the problem after all

[Kayz]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

And a $25k car loan is?

Its not like you cant have aftermarket nav systems installed in, say, a 2 year old Accord. Why pay $8-10k in depreciation when you dont have to?

Hey...I agree with ya'. But I have to keep her happy too!!!

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by Kayz

Hey...I agree with ya'. But I have to keep her happy too!!!

Tell her you'll buy her a floor length mink with the saved 8k.

[Kayz]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

Tell her you'll buy her a floor length mink with the saved 8k.

yeah, but then she needs a nice set of pearls to really set the coat off!!

Trust me....it just doesn't work that way.

No she's a cool girl and isn't high maintenance at all. The reason for buying a new honda accord is that Accord's do not depreciate $8K the minute you drive them off the lot. They are holding there value very very well right now. We went to the Honda dealership about 3-4 months ago, and they had some USED 2004 Accords that were more expensive than the brand new 2005's that they were trying to get rid of...go figure.

My Uncle has a dealers license and he goes to auctions all the time. He was telling me that Honda Accords and Toyota's Camry's are almost impossible to get at auctions because they go for such a high price.

Look on ebay. An Accord that is 2 years old with 30,000 miles can fetch upwards of $18-$19K depending on the model and options. It is almost cheaper to buy a new one.

[Grizzly]

Hell, I have no real problem with buying new...for myself, and those like me. Me? I'll drive a car until it won't drive any further without putting more money into fixing it than it is worth. Thus, for me, buying new really ain't a big thing because I don't plan on trading in.

For those who want to have a new car every 2-3 years, then it gets to be a real financial drain buying new.

It's actually amazing to me how many people are "upside down" on their current cars. WTF? How's about you pay off the old one before you buy the new one.

[Kayz]

I'm the same way...I'll keep a car 8,9,10 years or until it quits on me. I've never been a big fan of leasing because you always have a car payment.

My fiance currently drives a 1999 S-10 pickup truck with 110,000 miles on it (she used to commute long distances to and from school) and it is falling apart. I make sure the oil is changed regularly, I changed the spark plugs, tranny fluid/filter, coolant at about 75,000 miles...but it has about had it. It's on its last leg. I'm just hoping that it will hold off for another year or so until after we get married.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by Kayz

I'm the same way...I'll keep a car 8,9,10 years or until it quits on me. I've never been a big fan of leasing because you always have a car payment.

My fiance currently drives a 1999 S-10 pickup truck with 110,000 miles on it and it is falling apart.... it has about had it. It's on its last leg.

Theres that American quality for ya.

[Kayz]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Theres that American quality for ya.

No shit....110,000 miles on an Accord is the break-in miles.

I have a 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 with 54,000 miles on it. This car is meticulously maintained both physically and mechanically. I've had a ton of problems with it:

1) I had to replace the tires at 16,000 miles (each tire is about $300) because I had a tire with a bad belt that would not hold air...and it wore down real bad. GM would not cover it under warranty...said it was my "aggressive driving style" even though the other 3 tires looked brand fucking new.

2) So, I get my tires replaced and I'm driving home from the shop and my alignment is off so bad I can hardly drive it. I take it back to the shop to find out that I had another bad tire from the factory...it too had a bad belt. Luckily they covered this one.

3) My stereo just quit working one day....no sound, nothing. I've yet to get this fixed, so I drive around all day in silence.

4) My windshield wipers do not work worth shit. I'm driving down the road one day in a damn monsoon and my wipers freeze halfway up my windshield!!! I had to pull off the road and wait for it to quit raining. They said I needed a new wiper motor, so I put one in. They worked for about 2 weeks and then bam....quit again. Now they tell me I need to new switch, but they have to disconnect my airbag and shit....will cost over $1K!!! So, I don't drive in the rain.

5) At about 45,000 miles, I needed new brake pads...no biggie it was due. I take it to my good friend who is the head mechanic at a Chrylser mechanic because I don't like fucking with breaks. He calls me and tells me to come down to the shop to see something. MY pistons on my left side were frozen solid!!! We tried like hell to get them to release the rotor, but they would not budge. $650 later I have 4 new calipers that work great.

So when I hear GM workers tell me how great their quality is I have to laugh. Between my car and my fiance's truck...I've had nothing but bad luck and have spent thousands of dollars. And I take damn good care of my cars.

[Grizzly]

I had a Blazer with 185k before I killed it and my Cavalier has 60k and zero problems.

[Dionysus]

I've got a Benz with 251K on the clock and still runz great & gets 30 mpg.

[Kayz]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

I've got a Benz with 251K on the clock and still runz great & gets 30 mpg.

...is it a diesel???

[THL]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

I had a Blazer with 185k before I killed it and my Cavalier has 60k and zero problems.

My '96 Chevy PU had 140,000 when I sold it and the only thing I put into it was an alternator and a fuel pump. And my old Jeep Cherokee had over 200k on it when I sold that and it still ran pretty good. And I beat the crap out of that and rarely changed the oil.

I've heard plenty of horror stories about American autos, but for the most part, I've had pretty good luck with them.

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by THL

I've heard plenty of horror stories about American autos, but for the most part, I've had pretty good luck with them.

They're probably exagerated. Not to mention, there's problems with Jap vehicles, too. All I know is that my entire family has been driving GM for 40 years and we see no reason whatsoever to change.

My mother's(now my sister's) Chevy Lumina is a '94 and the only problem that it has had is the sunroof motor went out, so it had to be replaced. Man, that $300 dollars over the course of 10 years was a real kick in the junk!

Had an '86 Buick LaSabre that we finally got rid of in 2000. Hundred and some odd thousands of miles. I loved that car. Lost my virginity in it.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by Grizzly

I loved that car. Lost my virginity in it.

So how was he?

[Kayz]

Did you guys cuddle afterwards??

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Kayz

...is it a diesel???

Yep