What Really Happened on 9/11??

[Turbo1]

I just saw this video and its very interesting...How true is it?? Watch and see for yourself. Really makes you think

http://www.bangedup.com/bu_posts/pentagon121qwedc.swf

[Quasimoto]

Originally Posted by Turbo1

I just saw this video and its very interesting...How true is it?? Watch and see for yourself. Really makes you think

http://www.bangedup.com/bu_posts/pentagon121qwedc.swf

Yeh this is an old theory. Still very interesting however. The fact that this plaine would have had to fly a few feet off the ground to avert radar detection for something like 80 miles is , to me , an impossibility.

Senator Bob Graham's book makes note of this inconsistency in the 9/11 timeline. One theory he offers is that the real plane was shot down over the atlantic , but this wasnt information that the government wanted to release to the public.

I wonder if we will ever actually know for sure what happened on that day ?

[tHe_ShOcKeR]

spiffy. made me think. mission accomplished.

[Desibaba]

Originally Posted by Quasimoto

I wonder if we will ever actually know for sure what happened on that day ?

We wont.Its all speculation and different theories.The important thing is to make sure shit like that doesnt happen again. Area 51 and countless other things have proven the fact that the US government (just like any other government) doesnt reveal the complete facts to the general public.Although id say sometimes thats the best course of action in order to avoid.Or maybe ive been watching too much X files reruns.

[panabolic]

I never heard that theory before, as I don't live in the States & I don't see alot of American TV etc. The internet is great for stuff like this...that's an excellent website and it sure looks like a viable theory(excellent site, worth the wait for the download). Question, should the government have a right to confiscate those privately owned video tapes that recorded the incident?? What reasoning could they have?? Interest of National Security BS?? As far as I'm concerned it should be the God Damned CIA suited up and fighting over there in Iraq not the Reg forces. Fken CIA manufactured those kooks over there and they turned on them like a mad pitbull, they're (CIA) responsibile, they should have to look after that mess and put there own fken life at risk for that, not America's Sons and Daughters!!! Funny to this day I have yet to hear of one (1) person from the CIA (or any other government dept.) getting the boot for this tragedy. Living outside of the U.S. you see/hear many different views on 9/11. I have nothing against Americans, alot of you guys are my friends, I just think your government is way out of control and honestly needs a complete overhaul there's just zero accountabilty left with them. Ok, that video got me all worked up, I'm done now.

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by Quasimoto

The fact that this plaine would have had to fly a few feet off the ground to avert radar detection for something like 80 miles is , to me , an impossibility.

If you turn the transponder off, then the plane would disappear from radar. I would have to check to be absolutely sure, but I believe radar only picks up planes above ~800 feet agl (above ground level). Flying at that altitude wouldnt really be much of a problem.

Interesting video, but I dont think it really provides any evidence other than quotes from eyewitnesses. Ask Mark Kerr how reliable witnesses are to fast-occurring crimes. They are the worst form of evidence. The "it sounds like a missle" quotes arent reliable either, as its not like these people would have had much time to stop what they were doing in order to look skyward. Something travelling 500+mph would be out of view in a second or less. How do these people know what a missle sounds like? Or a jet flying overhead at treetop level?

Plus, the video from the Pentagon, IMO, is worthless. 5 seconds of video with 1 frame per second. With a plane travelling at say 500mph (was likely faster than that), it was moving at 733 feet per second (.14 miles). The video shows one frame of a silver blur that is indistinguishable, as the plane would have crossed the entire field of camera view in roughly a half-second.

[Quasimoto]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

If you turn the transponder off, then the plane would disappear from radar. I would have to check to be absolutely sure, but I believe radar only picks up planes above ~800 feet agl (above ground level). Flying at that altitude wouldnt really be much of a problem.

Interesting video, but I dont think it really provides any evidence other than quotes from eyewitnesses. Ask Mark Kerr how reliable witnesses are to fast-occurring crimes. They are the worst form of evidence. The "it sounds like a missle" quotes arent reliable either, as its not like these people would have had much time to stop what they were doing in order to look skyward. Something travelling 500+mph would be out of view in a second or less. How do these people know what a missle sounds like? Or a jet flying overhead at treetop level?

Plus, the video from the Pentagon, IMO, is worthless. 5 seconds of video with 1 frame per second. With a plane travelling at say 500mph (was likely faster than that), it was moving at 733 feet per second (.14 miles). The video shows one frame of a silver blur that is indistinguishable, as the plane would have crossed the entire field of camera view in roughly a half-second.

A transponder would disguise its identity, but never hide it from radar. An unmanned drone, a large kite, flocks of birds etc are all visible from radar. The IFF ( indentification friend of foe ) wouldnt work without the trandsponder signature, but an object would still be very clearly visible.There is actual video of the "object " hitting the pentagon. Why hasnt it been released ? There are cameras all over DC...

[thick]

nice link. It would be nice to know everything the gov knows

[cutup]

Very interseting video. Makes you think!

[novicebb]

Originally Posted by panabolic

I never heard that theory before, as I don't live in the States & I don't see alot of American TV etc. The internet is great for stuff like this...that's an excellent website and it sure looks like a viable theory(excellent site, worth the wait for the download). Question, should the government have a right to confiscate those privately owned video tapes that recorded the incident?? What reasoning could they have?? Interest of National Security BS?? As far as I'm concerned it should be the God Damned CIA suited up and fighting over there in Iraq not the Reg forces. Fken CIA manufactured those kooks over there and they turned on them like a mad pitbull, they're (CIA) responsibile, they should have to look after that mess and put there own fken life at risk for that, not America's Sons and Daughters!!! Funny to this day I have yet to hear of one (1) person from the CIA (or any other government dept.) getting the boot for this tragedy. Living outside of the U.S. you see/hear many different views on 9/11. I have nothing against Americans, alot of you guys are my friends, I just think your government is way out of control and honestly needs a complete overhaul there's just zero accountabilty left with them. Ok, that video got me all worked up, I'm done now.

There was a German and British Journalist several years ago that first made such allegations. A book in the EU was released about it as well. American media reported about it for 2 or 3 days and then nothing further. But I do understand why sometimes why governments lie, cover up and create secret agendas or strategies for the overall good of its citizens.

[bigcuv]

if it wasnt a plane that struck the building what are they saying did it a missle. Was it a mistaken drop by one of our own. They have releeased documentary from 9/11 that says rumsfield gave aircraft permission to engage a fligth headed towards washington but it had already crashed. But the theroy of a missle instead of a plane is kinda weak since the people in the PENTAGON would probably be behind a conspieracy theroy, I mean who's gonna pull something on the PENTAGON, the one's known for CONSPIRACY.

[dolfe1]

Extremely poor video, those so called perfect holes in those pics aren't even real, most of that has been shopped and I only had to watch it once to see that. PCT's love shit like that.

[KOMT]

What really happened?

1. a bunch of towelheads took a class on how to fly airplanes

2. the cowards on the airplanes were afraid of a few skinny arabs with ladies schick razors. Due to their own selfishness, they chose to make cell phone calls instead of fighting for their lives.

3. the planes crashed into the twin towers.


The end.

[cutup]

Originally Posted by KOMT

What really happened?

1. a bunch of towelheads took a class on how to fly airplanes

2. the cowards on the airplanes were afraid of a few skinny arabs with ladies schick razors. Due to their own selfishness, they chose to make cell phone calls instead of fighting for their lives.

3. the planes crashed into the twin towers.


The end.

And I am sure if you would have been on that flight you could have stopped them.

You have no clue what you would do when you are put in a situation like that! I would hope I would stand up and fight as well, but, you do not know until it happens to you.

[jshrub]

Originally Posted by KOMT

What really happened?

1. a bunch of towelheads took a class on how to fly airplanes

2. the cowards on the airplanes were afraid of a few skinny arabs with ladies schick razors. Due to their own selfishness, they chose to make cell phone calls instead of fighting for their lives.

3. the planes crashed into the twin towers.


The end.

Thats what im talking about! those punks were lucky i wasnt on the plane, let alone with veins busting with test n tren and a pocket full of halos... shit, half of american men need to grow some balls, bust those fuckers up, then call the wifey etc and tell them how you kicked the sand out of some cowardly low life would be terrorists.