Looking for some help!

[howie424]

I was looking to get on some steroids, but I don't know where to start! I'm not sure what kind to get, or what type to use with my height/weight/etc. Help is appreciated.

[bobvongule]

I don't want to be a dick but since I am.
Try posting like this for better responses:

I am ? years old
I am ? tall
I have ? bodyfat
I weigh ?
Bloodwork?
My diet and training goes like this?
My goal is to ??? short term? long term? sport related?
I would like to try a cycle of ? and ? Does anyone have an opinion on this? Thanks.

Howie,
Honestly you need to do your own research before asking a wide open question like this. People need more info. There are too many variables. Help us, help you! and we will. Well try to anyway. Just remember everything said here is advice based on our experiences, thoughts, and research we have already done. Good luck.

[mands]

Agree!!!!!

[howie424]

I am 18 years old.
I am 5'10".
I have probably around 8-10% body fat.
I weigh 185 lbs.
I don't have an extremely strict diet, but I try my best to eat as much clean food as I can, as much as possible (I don't drink alcohol, pop and/or eat candy, junk food, etc.)
My goal is to hit about 205-210 lbs, then cut some fat so I'm about 200 lbs and lean. I want to do this for college football and for some martial arts classes I am going to take during the offseason.

I find this whole steroid thing quite overwhelming and I don't really know where to start as far as research goes. There are so many different kinds and I don't know how some compare to others. So if you now know enough information about me, some help would be appreciated. If there is anything that I did forget to mention, I'll fill that in.

[bt_06]

look at the sticky on the phreezers 1st cycles it helped me out i mean im not a pro or anything im only on my 2nd cycle but if i could go back and do it all over again id start my 1st cycle with just some sort of testosterone and a good PCT

[bobvongule]

Howie you're 18!! I am sorry but I can't advise you on how or why you should use steroids. Search this site for first time cycles if you must. That is all I can say. Sorry brother, nothing personal.

[howie424]

Ok maybe for my age steroids isn't a good idea. But is there anything I can take to give me a quick boost to my muscle growth. Maybe just 1 cycle?

[bobvongule]

One cycle is like getting one tattoo. It always turns into more. I would try training my ass off for a year. You would be surprised the gains you will make and keep. Focus on diet. Most kids your age do nothing for diet. Usually don't eat enough. When they do it's shit. I will PM a diet to you later. Look it over. See if you think it's something you can do. Try it for 3 weeks. Fair enough?

[howie424]

Last time I hit a hard diet I did see some good gains. I greatly appreciate your help and I'll look over the diet.

This is off-topic but I've got to say, people here on this website are much more helpful than most other websites.

[bobvongule]

No problem with that diet. May want to try some over the counter products. Nano Vapor or Super Pump 250 seem to work pretty good.

Yeah this board is very helpful and not just the steroid forum. Cruise through the rest of Forums when you get a chance. Shit loads of info on training, diets, and overall health. Perfect place for a beginner to do research. Not to mention the mods on this board set firm guidelines and most everyone one the board respect that.

[761USD]

Haven't triend nano vapor, but have superpump 250 and that stuff made me crazy. At first, taking it was fine, gave me the runs. After continous use and upping the dose from 1 scoop to 3, i experienced severe agression. Keep in mind I was on an entire regimen of supps, which could have made it this way for me? The directions spefically say not to take other supp's with this product. Now does that mean dont use nano vapor and SP250 at the same time or does it mean not to use ANY supps, like vitamin C, B12, etc? IDK?

I liked Argne Krush the best, but wasn't on any supps while taking that either, but did not have any side effects while on it. Everyone is different though.

Arnge Krush Pre-Workout Drink Mix at Biorhythm

[howie424]

So you experienced severe aggression and the pumps you wanted while taking SP250? How did Argne Krush work for ya?

[BBC3]

Howie, these guy are forgetting that some of the supps out there have anabolic affects, even though you can buy them legally. When DHEA first his the market it was basically harder than DBOL. Nearly stopped my heart with that stuff. First you want NO orals. Second, you want no juice till 27-32 depending. Research them too, cause if you eat em you are basically taking a shit oral and might as well be pinning test..... Same damage can occur over the counter. Reseach superdrol, m1t, etc.......

THe one supp they are leaving off that actually works non anabolically is creating. And now its cheaper than dirt. May give you the shits, and dont take more than 10 grams a day once loaded or you will shut your fucking kidneys down....Took me off a 3 year plateau and bench went from 285 to 360!!! It works.... Leave the jizzy juice alone for now. You will know when you need it.

You might try some of that nosplode or whatever the fuck it is. I have heard good things...

[Drea'An]

Originally Posted by howie424

I am 18 years old.
I am 5'10".
I have probably around 8-10% body fat.
I weigh 185 lbs.
I don't have an extremely strict diet, but I try my best to eat as much clean food as I can, as much as possible (I don't drink alcohol, pop and/or eat candy, junk food, etc.)
My goal is to hit about 205-210 lbs, then cut some fat so I'm about 200 lbs and lean. I want to do this for college football and for some martial arts classes I am going to take during the offseason.

I find this whole steroid thing quite overwhelming and I don't really know where to start as far as research goes. There are so many different kinds and I don't know how some compare to others. So if you now know enough information about me, some help would be appreciated. If there is anything that I did forget to mention, I'll fill that in.

I don't know what the fuck is wrong with you over-eager, drug-craving, young people wanting to use steroids at your ages(teens,early twenties) before your prime! It's like allowing young kids to smoke and drink booze which would totally fuck them up! Damn! Imagine a nation of short, drunken people that smoke!(Hmm? Korea?) LOL The only reason I didn't want to use steroids because of the stories about enlarged hearts and heart attacks associated with AAS. I really didn't believe the stories, but they left me with doubts about steroids. I've taken steroids for two years now. I'm over fifty and It has become part of my life. I don't want to drag my ass in the gym anymore, nor do I want to have a limp dick when it's time for all night fuckin'! Wait a little past your prime and if you make it there good luck to ya!

[761USD]

First, I must give props to Drea'An (how do you like it pronounced On'drea or An'drea?) and BBC3. They are right. Wait till you're T goes down naturally, and you'll know, trust me. OTC supps do have side effects as well. I think my tits grew cuz of them and possibly made me feel less engergetic after I took them.

Creatine works, also heard good things about NOExplode, and Nitrix works, as well as SP250. Creatine, no side effects that I've ever noticed. Can't comment on NOExplode as I never took it, but sounds similar to Nitrix, which if I took one pill right now, I'd be an asshole in an hour. I originally heard a guy at the gym talking about it Nitrix. Said that is the only supp he took cuz of no side effects. Lucky him. I told my family, "ok I'm taking my asshole pills now, beware". True story. SP250 = raving maniac, but was on many other supps at the time. Never tried it solo. You will get the shits from this. Unavoidable. With many of these enhancers, especially creatine, you may wake up 4-5 times a night to piss, like i did, when you stop taking it. Same thing with Arnge Krush, I think I gained more size and physicque was better while on this. Better definition all around. I worked out less on this and looked better. This was the only supp I took at the time. Once you stop any enhancer, you will loose gains, maybe not all, but at least some. Aside from all that, there was a study done on protein. Excess protein does, and has caused higher levels of agression, all by itself. This may or may not be true. I haven't experimented enough yet on this one. Some ingredients in supps are weakened or ineffective by the time people consume them. I got good pumps from both, but couldnt do cardio. Felt like my heart was going to explode. Couldn't fall asleep at night. Mental awareness, sharpness, focus were all increased.

Keep in mind, I'm not trying to sell you on any product, rather educate you. I've had my fun with OTC and I'm done with them. The only supps I'll be taking from now on are vitamins. I haven't taken steroids, but I'm researching to decide whether it's right for me or not. I've been researching on and off since last fall.

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by howie424

Ok maybe for my age steroids isn't a good idea. But is there anything I can take to give me a quick boost to my muscle growth. Maybe just 1 cycle?

there is, a high calloric and high protein intake of nutrition, multivitaimins, Zma, whey protein, creatine

how long you been lifitng for?

[Drea'An]

Originally Posted by 761USD

First, I must give props to Drea'An (how do you like it pronounced On'drea or An'drea?) and BBC3. They are right. Wait till you're T goes down naturally, and you'll know, trust me. OTC supps do have side effects as well. I think my tits grew cuz of them and possibly made me feel less engergetic after I took them.

Creatine works, also heard good things about NOExplode, and Nitrix works, as well as SP250. Creatine, no side effects that I've ever noticed. Can't comment on NOExplode as I never took it, but sounds similar to Nitrix, which if I took one pill right now, I'd be an asshole in an hour. I originally heard a guy at the gym talking about it Nitrix. Said that is the only supp he took cuz of no side effects. Lucky him. I told my family, "ok I'm taking my asshole pills now, beware". True story. SP250 = raving maniac, but was on many other supps at the time. Never tried it solo. You will get the shits from this. Unavoidable. With many of these enhancers, especially creatine, you may wake up 4-5 times a night to piss, like i did, when you stop taking it. Same thing with Arnge Krush, I think I gained more size and physicque was better while on this. Better definition all around. I worked out less on this and looked better. This was the only supp I took at the time. Once you stop any enhancer, you will loose gains, maybe not all, but at least some. Aside from all that, there was a study done on protein. Excess protein does, and has caused higher levels of agression, all by itself. This may or may not be true. I haven't experimented enough yet on this one. Some ingredients in supps are weakened or ineffective by the time people consume them. I got good pumps from both, but couldnt do cardio. Felt like my heart was going to explode. Couldn't fall asleep at night. Mental awareness, sharpness, focus were all increased.

Keep in mind, I'm not trying to sell you on any product, rather educate you. I've had my fun with OTC and I'm done with them. The only supps I'll be taking from now on are vitamins. I haven't taken steroids, but I'm researching to decide whether it's right for me or not. I've been researching on and off since last fall.

It's pronounced "Dre' Ahn!''