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Old 11-21-2006, 01:02 PM
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After some research I've established a beginner cycle that I hope will kick start my gains to another level. At 5'11 225 at very lttle body fat, I'm wondering how my body will respond
(gains). I cant imagine possibly packing on 20-25lbs of muscle on this frame; I would literally look like a freak and probably wreck my appearence. (definition) But I no longer want to mantain, I want to move on.

1-9 500-600mg of test
week 12 start clomid at 100mg ED, 13,14 50mg ED
*nolva on hand to prevent gyno during cycle
nolva for 6 weeks 2 weeks after last injection 40/40/40/20/20/10 * *could vary
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Looks good man, but I would run some a-dex at .5mg eod as you dont know how your body will respond to the test. If your using test enanthate I would frontload it at 750mg a week for the first two weeks, that will get your levels up faster. Good luck bro.
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After some research I've established a beginner cycle that I hope will kick start my gains to another level. At 5'11 225 at very lttle body fat, I'm wondering how my body will respond
(gains). I cant imagine possibly packing on 20-25lbs of muscle on this frame; I would literally look like a freak and probably wreck my appearence. (definition) But I no longer want to mantain, I want to move on.

1-9 500-600mg of test
week 12 start clomid at 100mg ED, 13,14 50mg ED
*nolva on hand to prevent gyno during cycle
nolva for 6 weeks 2 weeks after last injection 40/40/40/20/20/10 * *could vary

500mg a week is good. on clomid 50mg is good.. nova 20mg is good and no need to front load... so are you wanting to bulk up? I would stack that cycle with something!
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After some research I've established a beginner cycle that I hope will kick start my gains to another level. At 5'11 225 at very lttle body fat, I'm wondering how my body will respond
(gains). I cant imagine possibly packing on 20-25lbs of muscle on this frame; I would literally look like a freak and probably wreck my appearence. (definition) But I no longer want to mantain, I want to move on.

1-9 500-600mg of test
week 12 start clomid at 100mg ED, 13,14 50mg ED
*nolva on hand to prevent gyno during cycle
nolva for 6 weeks 2 weeks after last injection 40/40/40/20/20/10 * *could vary

any reason you are running it for 9 weeks insread of 10?
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Someone said it in your last thread- you now know the basics, it's time to go ahead and do it. If you keep posting you will keep getting different opinions, not that any are bad or wrong but you will just keep changing up. Go for it and good luck.

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I would run the Test for 10 weeks and maybe add 30mg of D-bol ED for the first 4-6 weeks.

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I appreciate everyones opinion and conviction to help guide me in the right direction, but I'm getting many different views that can be confusing. It's normal for one to be a little tentative when doing something for the first time (especially AS) but I do feel I'm on a slight delay. I just want to get as much solid information as possible before I take this dive. Ten weeks has been noted. My question to everyone is: Should something be added to this cycle example: D-bol, Or hold off until a future cycle? I would also appreciate any source referals. Just PM me.
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Well after doing some research I've decided to stick to a test only cycle so I'll know how my body will respond to a single drug cycle. Hopefully this will also reduce possible side effects.
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I appreciate everyones opinion and conviction to help guide me in the right direction, but I'm getting many different views that can be confusing. It's normal for one to be a little tentative when doing something for the first time (especially AS) but I do feel I'm on a slight delay. I just want to get as much solid information as possible before I take this dive. Ten weeks has been noted. My question to everyone is: Should something be added to this cycle example: D-bol, Or hold off until a future cycle? I would also appreciate any source referals. Just PM me.

Dbol i never liked for one ugly bloat. and harsh on the liver.. Me personally i stay away from anything oral.. rather have it injected into the muscle..
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Well after doing some research I've decided to stick to a test only cycle so I'll know how my body will respond to a single drug cycle. Hopefully this will also reduce possible side effects.


Thats fine.. even with test you still get sides..On sus i got real oily skin.. had to wash my face like 3-4 times day.. I would definitly stack it with something.. make the best out of it dude.. if your bulking.. My personal favorite is deca.. But hey do what you think is best.. Do your research.. And do what you feel comfortable.. Also keep a eye on the nipples... feel for sorness, bumps etc.. I did 3 cycles and on my third one i got gyno but i sprinkled some nova and a litle dash of clomid lmao
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