Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on 1st cycle, need advice within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; Originally Posted by pleasurenpain
Believe it or not no joke. Let me explain my reasoning. The reasoning is understood without ...
Believe it or not no joke. Let me explain my reasoning. The reasoning is understood without an explanation. It's fine if you are advanced in bb and cycles.
The d-bol for 4 weeks is because the oils being test and deca will not kick in for 3-4 weeks. The d-bol will kick in with in 24-48 hours. This will get the test levels up and keep them up until the oils kick in. And depending on who you talk to and were you do your research 400mgs of deca and 500mgs of test is mild. Is tren a also mild? A doctor will put you on 250 a week for test treatments. No, a doctor will prescribe 200 to 250mg every 2 weeks. That is just to keep the test levels at normal. Well I don't dso cycles to just have normal test levels. Now for the last part. The prop is a short easter along with the tren ace. This will keep the test levels up until the long esters clear your system. Tren a will help to keep test levels up? That way your levels only drop for 3 days instead of 3 weeks. When your levels drop you lose what you gained. The nolv. is always a good idea in any cycle and clomid and hcg is a very to the point pct. Lets see, deca + tren = progesterone sides. Ever tried to get rid of progestrone induced gyno with nolva? My guess is....you haven't. They will get the normal test going again. That is the true point of a pct. The point of a cycle is gains (keepable)
My starting stats are 5'10" 183lbs 33% bf 2004
My stats now are 5'10" 220lbs 13%bf 2007
I have been into this for over 5 years and have many cycles under my belt.
You guys would really trip to see my first cycle.
Right now I am running
week 1-4 50mgs of a-bomb
week 2-18 20mgs of nolv.
week 1-12 test cyp. 500mgs a week
week 1-12 tren enth. 400mgs a week
week 1-12 deca 300mgs a week for joint support
week 13-16 prop 100mgs eod
week 13-16 masteron 75mgs eod
week 17-19 clomid step down method
week 17 hcg 2500ius day 1 and day 4 of pct
week 4-5 28 days total 40mcgs of igf a day directly into the bicep.
Now after this cycle I will take as long off cycle as I spent on. Including pct. If I am on a total of 18 weeks I will take 18 weeks off.
OK, you do know the title to this thread is "1st cycle, need advice" right?
I know you said yes but I just have to ask again. This is one of the worst 1st cycles I've seen. Man, that is just too much. It is totally unnecessary to use that much aas for a first cycle.
Hmmm.....d-bol - deca - test e - tren a - test p ..............For a first cycle?...............NO!!!
WannaBeMassive- if you want a good first cycle, with no bullshit, follow this link and you might learn something.
Believe it or not no joke. Let me explain my reasoning.
The d-bol for 4 weeks is because the oils being test and deca will not kick in for 3-4 weeks. The d-bol will kick in with in 24-48 hours. This will get the test levels up and keep them up until the oils kick in. And depending on who you talk to and were you do your research 400mgs of deca and 500mgs of test is mild. A doctor will put you on 250 a week for test treatments. That is just to keep the test levels at normal. Well I don't dso cycles to just have normal test levels. Now for the last part. The prop is a short easter along with the tren ace. This will keep the test levels up until the long esters clear your system. That way your levels only drop for 3 days instead of 3 weeks. When your levels drop you lose what you gained. The nolv. is always a good idea in any cycle and clomid and hcg is a very to the point pct. They will get the normal test going again. That is the true point of a pct. The point of a cycle is gains (keepable)
My starting stats are 5'10" 183lbs 33% bf 2004
My stats now are 5'10" 220lbs 13%bf 2007
I have been into this for over 5 years and have many cycles under my belt.
You guys would really trip to see my first cycle.
Right now I am running
week 1-4 50mgs of a-bomb
week 2-18 20mgs of nolv.
week 1-12 test cyp. 500mgs a week
week 1-12 tren enth. 400mgs a week
week 1-12 deca 300mgs a week for joint support
week 13-16 prop 100mgs eod
week 13-16 masteron 75mgs eod
week 17-19 clomid step down method
week 17 hcg 2500ius day 1 and day 4 of pct
week 4-5 28 days total 40mcgs of igf a day directly into the bicep.
Now after this cycle I will take as long off cycle as I spent on. Including pct. If I am on a total of 18 weeks I will take 18 weeks off.
You really need to run test @ at least 200mg per week for2 weeks past the Deca and another 2-4 at 100mg tapering down to nothing. Deca will suppress your test levels to nothing and it takes at least 4 weeks to return to baseline no matter what PCT drugs you use during that time. If Deca is present at even 17mg in your blood (which is about what it will be at week 4)than that is 25% of your own testosterone that is uncapable of being produced, 25% less dht, 25% less libido, etc. This is how I would do it.
TEST - Cypionate, Enathate, Sustanon, whatever you want
1-12 200mg (really would do 400mg, but you were wanting not to do any)
13-14 80mg
15 40 mg
shoot twice a week
DECA
1-10 400mg per week
don't taper up, waste of time and AAS
PROVIRON
1-14 50mg per day
15 25mg per day
16 12.5mg per day
LETROZOLE
1-10 1/4tab every other day
11-12 1/4tab every 4 days
CLOMID
13-16 50mg per day - 150mg first week or 300mg first day.
You really need to research more, your cycle outlined seams very outdated. Also I assume you chose Deca and not Test because of androgenic sides? Proviron is very androgenic too. Also you mention Deca Dick as being "psychological or not"! It does not seam like you have done much research at all, PLEASE do much more.
Thanks fellas
I've read the first cycle by Phreezer, three times now, VERY informative, so thanks for the heads up on that.
so... if i was to decide to do this what would you say to the above cycle, minus the Deca?? would it be another bollocking? lol
ALSO....
I looked into buying the Sust in sachet form and found they came in 750mg sachets, obviously too high a dosage. And upon asking them if that could be used in more than one go, they told me it can be stored in the syringe.... is this safe?!?!
Last edited by WannaBeMassive; 02-05-2007 at 07:24 AM.
If all is kept sterile it is safe.be sure and change pins before injecting.
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also.. why do you say I am too young? is 20 really too young?
YES!! 20 is WAY too young to be using steroids. I wouldn't use them until I was 23 or 24 at least. Your body is still growing and developing. If you start steroids now it won't be good for you.
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