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Default 1st "heavy duty" cycle, few minor questions.

Hey guys, im just getting ready to do my first injectable cycle... i've done some cutting with Anavar and clen and stuff before but nothing too big. I'm going to do 2x250mg Test enanthanate per week for 10 weeks.

My question(s) are about preparation & PCT, i found a very good international source -but they wont send many items to canada because they offer free reship and canada customs is very good at nabbing there shipments. They only offer powders to canadians as they are less likely to get grabbed.

So i have two problems: 1) I am getting 10grams of test enanthanate, i learned how to prepare it for injection (How to make your own injectables ... - Bodybuilding.com Forums) but i am not sure how to store it. I found a link to the site GPZ Services on this forum but i am not sure what i should be getting. Obviously a funnel, but for vials do i want "presealed" or "unsealed"? Then if i get "unsealed" im not sure what else to buy to seal it: "Aluminum seals with center tear out"? I dont even know what that means. "Aluminum seals with a hole"? "Sleeve stoppers"? "red rubber stoppers"?

I noticed on pevious threads some ppl do prepare there own around here -so a little direction would be greatly appreciated!

The 2nd problem is My international supplier only sells Nolvadex & Proviron for PCT, so i cant access clomid or HCG. I could get clomid from my domestic dealer($$$) but i havent talked to him since the summer and he doesnt carry HCG -also i dont want to have to tell him he has been replaced & I only need to get clomid from him

I noticed Andysutils who is a senior member make a note on another thread:
"ive only ever used nolva and yes the difference would be is that clomid can have some heavy sides as where nolva doesnt," But that thread was about doing orals only so i dont know if it would be applicable to me.

Any comments or advice as far as storage and PCT go would be greatly appreciated!
Maybe i should just suck it up and ask my old dealer for some clomid only?
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Default Re: 1st "heavy duty" cycle, few minor questions.

In my opinion Nolva is the superior compound. mg for mg it is stronger so 50mg of nolva is equal to 150mg of clomid, therefore saving you money. Also nolva is better at battling gyno, also I have read from steriod.com that users have reported vision issues with high doses of clomid, while from an account taken from steroid.com, nolva at 20mg can increase test by 150%.

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So i have two problems: 1) I am getting 10grams of test enanthanate, i learned how to prepare it for injection (How to make your own injectables ... - Bodybuilding.com Forums) but i am not sure how to store it. I found a link to the site GPZ Services on this forum but i am not sure what i should be getting. Obviously a funnel, but for vials do i want "presealed" or "unsealed"? Then if i get "unsealed" im not sure what else to buy to seal it: "Aluminum seals with center tear out"? I dont even know what that means. "Aluminum seals with a hole"? "Sleeve stoppers"? "red rubber stoppers"?

I noticed on pevious threads some ppl do prepare there own around here -so a little direction would be greatly appreciated!

The 2nd problem is My international supplier only sells Nolvadex & Proviron for PCT, so i cant access clomid or HCG. I could get clomid from my domestic dealer($$$) but i havent talked to him since the summer and he doesnt carry HCG -also i dont want to have to tell him he has been replaced & I only need to get clomid from him

I noticed Andysutils who is a senior member make a note on another thread:
"ive only ever used nolva and yes the difference would be is that clomid can have some heavy sides as where nolva doesnt," But that thread was about doing orals only so i dont know if it would be applicable to me.

Any comments or advice as far as storage and PCT go would be greatly appreciated!
Maybe i should just suck it up and ask my old dealer for some clomid only?
get presealed, theyre sterilized already, you need 2 pins through the top, 1 with a whatman filter on it to filter your gear after its made. store at room temp and make sure you use at least 5% ba, i prefere 20% bb and 3% ba, bb is a better solvent

mick is right about nolva. also, HCG is not needed since youre just running test e.
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Default Re: 1st "heavy duty" cycle, few minor questions.

Excellant! Thank you SwollenMick & Steroid500 both for your help!
Couple more questions 500 if i may, what is "bb"?
I am probably correct in guessing "ba" is benzel alcohol but i wasnt sure what "bb" was.

Since i am not going to be mixing the stuff directly inside of the container. That means I am going to have to mix up my products and then load them into a syringe, or mix them directly in a large syringe. I think the large syringe idea sounds slightly more feasable -what do you think?

Also for sterilization can I use "on contact no rinse sanitizer" like i do for home brewing?

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Excellant! Thank you SwollenMick & Steroid500 both for your help!
Couple more questions 500 if i may, what is "bb"?
I am probably correct in guessing "ba" is benzel alcohol but i wasnt sure what "bb" was.

Since i am not going to be mixing the stuff directly inside of the container. That means I am going to have to mix up my products and then load them into a syringe, or mix them directly in a large syringe. I think the large syringe idea sounds slightly more feasable -what do you think?

Also for sterilization can I use "on contact no rinse sanitizer" like i do for home brewing?

Hate to be a pest but you really know what your talking about, so i like to soak up all the advice i can!
bb is benzyl benzoate

you are going to have to mix you powder in your solvent(s) [ba or bb] first, then add your oil, there will be two separate phases in the open vial so you will need to heat it in a pot of simmering water while stirring it with a stir rod. load it in a syringe, pass it through a .45u whatman into the sterile vial

to sterilize use 70-90% isopropyl alcohol

ive done this shit tons of time, so if you have any more questions pm, i can walk ya through it...its easy stuff
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