1st time cycle (deca, Test Cyp, Winny)

[Drizzlin]

Well I always said I would come here and post how it was going. After speaking with a lot of you, especially with Bigbench, I decided to do a baby cycle. I wanted to stealth cycle and avoid people from being able to say "he is doing steroids, no doubt". My goals were to cut fat, put 10 to 15lbs of muscle on, while loosing 30lbs of fat. I know how important diet is, so I of course took Bigbench's advice and worked on that first.

So, I got with my Doctor and we picked a small first time cycle to do. I am doing...

Week 1-10 Test Cyp 200mg/ week
Week 1-4 Deca 100mg/week
Week 5-10 Deca 200mg/week
Week 6-10 Winny (for 30 days at 30 mg/day)
Week 1-10 Tomoxifen 20mg/every 4 days

I am going to come off the cycle with a proper PCT using clomid & HCG. I felt I could handle more deca or test and that is why I moved up to 200mg on the deca starting in week 5. It was the easier choice given I had extra deca that I wasn't going to be using.

I work out 3 to 5 days a week, depending on how I feel. In all honesty I could work out 7 days a week, even an 8th day if I could squeeze it in some how! =) I am not new to weight training, cardio, or proper dieting. I just let myself go over the last few years focusing on graduation and grad school. I was in the military and competing in sports, which always prevented me from cycling. I am 31 now and had the ability to do a cycle so I did this one.

I am 5'10" and In Sept of 2007 I was 230lbs with about 30% body fat. I hit a super hard diet and dropped to 191 before starting this cycle back on June 14th, 2008. I start my 6th week this Saturday. I got down to 188 and it was at that point that I am no longer able to measure my weight, because I am now 205, of which none is new fat. I can only go by measuring my waist and how clothes fit. I went form a 38inch to now a 33inch (almost a 32 inch) waist. I am in as great of shape as I was 10 years ago. I feel great and wanted to keep to my word to some of you on updating how things are going. I am sorry if this was a little long. A special thanks out to Bigbench for your help.

[EPOWER]

Bro those gains sound great, looks like you really did your research before your cycle. The fat loss before cycle with diet was a great move!!! I am happy to see that you knew enough and not going into it thinking that the roids would just change your body and make you lose all your fat and get really lean. You should post some pics of before your diet, after your diet and during your cycle, to show what can be done with dedication and hard work!
Again great job!


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[Drizzlin]

Thanks Epower. Yes I put a lot of time and thought into this. It is my body and the only one I have! It does help that I am a biochemist though. I will look at grabbing some pics. Thanks again.

[dennis]

Too bad BB is not around to hear this.....

[ForemanRules]

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[Drizzlin]

Originally Posted by dennis

Too bad BB is not around to hear this.....

What happened with BB?

[jasthace]

You need to drop the deca at least two weeks even four weeks before you start your pct.
Otherwise you are still "on"
You can't run deca week ten and start PCT week eleven.

[Drizzlin]

Originally Posted by jasthace

You need to drop the deca at least two weeks even four weeks before you start your pct.
Otherwise you are still "on"
You can't run deca week ten and start PCT week eleven.

I had worried this might be an issue, but my doctor and pharmacist that I have been working with on this cycle recommended this. The Pharmacist has been doing this for over 20 years. I did a ton of research on the pct and from what I even gathered, seems that I am right on the border of where to start the PCT and end the Deca.

I am not doubting you, just asking why you say this. Is it because of the 14 day half life of deca? As well they have me staring my HCG & Clomid on the first day of my last week of my cycle. That means i actually start my PCT at the end of week 9. I am going to run the clomid for four weeks total.

I felt comfortable going to doctors who administer AAS and Test cycles on regular bases. While a few of their suggestions were a tad off from where I researched here and there, they still seemed sound and backed by their advice. Then when i pulled out my biochem book and researched what they said about AAS, they seem to be on par.

Thanks for the help btw.