1st timer - light cycle of test cypionate

[vscommi]

Hi

I am 26 male and been training for 3 years. I am 156 lb and 5ft5in.

My arms are nearly 15 in flexed. I have reached a plateau and would like to do a light cycle to give me a boost. My ultimate goal is to gain about 10lb.

I am thinking of doing a cycle of test cypionate at 200mg per week (1cc) for 8 weeks.

Do you think this can give me the boost i require?

Also do I need any PCT with such a low amount?

Your opinions will greatly appreciated.

[ironaddict69]

Well, a good starting dose is 400 minimum. 500 wud be better. and yes u need PCT.
read up on it if u dont know, but itll consist of nolva, clomid, and maybe hcg.

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by vscommi

Hi

I am 26 male and been training for 3 years. I am 156 lb and 5ft5in.

My arms are nearly 15 in flexed. I have reached a plateau and would like to do a light cycle to give me a boost. My ultimate goal is to gain about 10lb.

I am thinking of doing a cycle of test cypionate at 200mg per week (1cc) for 8 weeks.

Do you think this can give me the boost i require?

Also do I need any PCT with such a low amount?

Your opinions will greatly appreciated.

200 mg like he said is way too low, that is just a hair over what your body produces endogenously. Minimum is 400 w/ cyp. and 500 is prefered for a "newbie" and that alone will be a light cycle on you but probably give you quite impressive gains. Take 250mg 2wice a week, ex. 250 on mon. 250 on thur. And if you can go 10 weeks do it, the injectibles aren't very hard on your liver like say an oral. If you get 2 - 10ml vials of test cyp250 that will be perfect. Just don't forget PCT

[ForemanRules]

Originally Posted by vscommi

Hi

I am 26 male and been training for 3 years. I am 156 lb and 5ft5in.

My arms are nearly 15 in flexed. I have reached a plateau and would like to do a light cycle to give me a boost. My ultimate goal is to gain about 10lb.

I am thinking of doing a cycle of test cypionate at 200mg per week (1cc) for 8 weeks.

Do you think this can give me the boost i require?

Also do I need any PCT with such a low amount?

Your opinions will greatly appreciated.

400mg would be enough, 8 weeks is a decient time to run it. And Yes you will need PCT.

[vscommi]

Ok so if it is 200mg test cypionate I have, I should do 2ml p/week (400mg) for 10 weeks which is 2x 10ml bottles. With PCT is Nolva alone enough for say 6 weeks after the cycle at 20,20,20,20,10,5mgs.

[terrorizer2]

Originally Posted by vscommi

Ok so if it is 200mg test cypionate I have, I should do 2ml p/week (400mg) for 10 weeks which is 2x 10ml bottles. With PCT is Nolva alone enough for say 6 weeks after the cycle at 20,20,20,20,10,5mgs.

I would do 6 weeks at 20,20,20,20,20,10.The cyp dose you say is correct.I would do 8 to 10 weeks and wait 10 days before starting PCT.You will probably get away without HCG at this dose but i would get some just incase you get testicle shrinkage.


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[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by terrorizer2

I would do 6 weeks at 20,20,20,20,20,10.The cyp dose you say is correct.I would do 8 to 10 weeks and wait 10 days before starting PCT.You will probably get away without HCG at this dose but i would get some just incase you get testicle shrinkage.


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Yes, this is definately a better PCT. He is also right about the HCG. Testicular atrophy sucks. Mine shrunk pretty small, used HCG and they came back QUICK. Good advice terrorizer.

[TheBeat]

It's refreshing not to see a first cycle that isn't Primobolan, Trenbolone, Equipoise, Deca-Durabolan with Dianabol and Winstrol for 8 weeks for a newbie.

I think that the Nolvadex should be ran at 20mg for 38 days, and for the last 5 days and 2 pills run .5 tab (10mg) for 3 days and .25(5mg) for 2 days. This will run 40 tabs. Personnally I would just run Arimidex and Test Cypi as follows:

01-10 Test Cypionate at 400-500MG
01-12 Arimidex at .5mg /day
13 Arimidex at .5mg /EOD
14 Arimidex at .25mg /EOD
15 Arimidex at .25mg / E3D
~~~That's it~~~ two drugs and simple.

[TheBeat]

Sorry, I meant to add something.

01-10 Test Cypionate at 400-500MG
(Another option would be to reduce it to 9 weeks and run a 4-5 week bridge/taper at 100mg)

01-12 Arimidex at .5mg /day
13 Arimidex at .5mg /EOD
14 Arimidex at .25mg /EOD
15 Arimidex at .25mg / E3D
~~~That's it~~~ two drugs and simple.

I would make it three drugs and add Proviron or Masteron Enanthate and you can probably reduce your Arimidex as well.

01-14 Proviron at 50mg /day
15 Proviron at 25mg /day
01-13 Arimidex at .25 /day
14 Arimidex at .25/ EOD
15 Arimidex at .25 /E3D

If you are set on Nolvadex like everyone is then drop the Arimidex at the end of week 13 and start your Nolvadex for 3 weeks and 20 tabs.


There are so many ways to do it, basically the way I see it is:

~Test only (first cycles), maybe add Proviron or Masteron (I always use one)
~Don't F**k around, use an AI, and don't bother with this "just in case" keep Nolvadex on hand,
just in case of what? the Arimidex doesn't work?
~I believe in tapering....Everything: aas, AI's, SERMS, Etc.
~SERMS like Nolvadex and Clomid have their purpose.....I just don't know where they are needed.
~Use a test base with every cycle, it does not have to be Testosterone, but could be a derivative like Dianabol or Equipoise (Eq only if a strong androgen is present such as Tren, Proviron, Etc.), basically what we are doing here is HRT, just at a much higher dose and other drug's thrown into the mix.

[Grizzly]

Originally Posted by jsupstarz

200 mg like he said is way too low, that is just a hair over what your body produces endogenously.

Well, that surely was a steaming pile of dogshit. You are totally incorrect. 200mg is a good 3 times what the body makes a week.