1st timer needs advice on Deca/Andriol Stack

[Roo_Boy]

Hey hope someone out there could give me a bit of advice as there is so much information and so much that contradicts each other.

I'm 26 6"6 105kg's so i'm already quiet big, but why stop there hey?? Plus it gets hard with a big frame. I'm in ok shape but have gotten a little softer since finishing up playing ball.

I'm just about to get on a Deca-Durinabol and Andriol Stack.

Will this be a Hair-Loss trigger, i heard Deca is pretty soft on hair as it doesn't convert to DHT? But the test might???

What else should i take or finish with?? Hair Loss is my biggest concern in side effects, the others i can deal with.

Will 200mg of Deca a week and 200mg of test a day be enough?

I work in Asia, so not everything is easily accessable but Sus250, Deca, and Andriol is all available over the counter.

[LifeSize]

I think you need to get in shape, the way you pussy foot around it leads me to believe you've been living sedentary recently... I don't mean to be offensive..just saying what I'm thinking..maybe that's offensive? sorry i had a little extra tren this morning...

another thing, without Test you will have no libido.. you will also have a hell of a time coming back online... deca is notorious for causing lengthy shutdowns.. it sits in your system for a long time..

Andriol is just a kick in the face to your liver, have some respect for your insides. You don't need something this harsh this early in the game.

Test Enan @ 500mg for 10-14 weeks, 12 is perfect. I would include 250iu's 2x a week starting week 5. I would run EQ over Deca..in which case the cycle would be 14 weeks. Eq @ 600-800mg every week, don't front load it..

Worried about male pattern baldness, don't do steroids. Otherwise, invest in a hair clipper and take that shit down to the skin..

[Roo_Boy]

Cheers for the response, and honesty.

Don't get me wrong, i'm not as in shape and lean as i have been when was playing, but i'm not what you would call out of shape. Just a little softer than i would like.

I work in a country where i don't speak the language so my connections are limited thus my shopping list limited.

So the andriol Test wouldn't be enough Test with the Deca to help libido?

It's just i read a few times that Deca and Andriol is a good stack for a beginner, getting around 10-15 lbs and should be very side effect minimal.

[bobvongule]

Life Size is right on. I have a good suspicion he is giving you advise from experience not some shit he read online posted by a guy who never used this stack, but did stay at a Comfort Inn last night. I don't know why people are always trying to get around the "classic stacks". They sound boring but they work for nearly everyone. I have a lot of experience with steroids. I am currently running 400mg of Test Prop and 800 mg of EQ a week for 16 weeks. I am in week 5 and can feel and see results. Just remember you can take all of the shit you want but if you don't train hard and eat you will still be a big mush. Don't forget PCT. No one is above this.

Life Size, Tren makes you snappy? I thought it was for beginners after reading every newbie post on this board. LOL.

[andysutils]

i really dont know why people constantly try to reinvent the wheel when it comes to a first cycle.

ditch the anadrol, and maybe even forget the deca and the EQ, more gear doesnt equal more results, you aint gonna gain 300lbs because you take 10 million times the recommended gear.

500mg test pw for 12 weeks, if you wanna frontloader, you can try and kick the cycle off with 30mg of dbol a day for no longer than 4 weeks with a good pct 2 weeks after your last shot.

theres a reason bro why 500mgs test pw is recommended by 99.9% of experienced lifters? because its the best, the simplest, the safest and gives the best results.

this is what ill personally be doing when i do my ffirst real cycle next year and the its almost no different than what lifesize is suggesting to you.

hope this helps