21 days DNP cycle

[mic79]

I'll be starting my 2nd DNP cycle as of today.I finished my 1st cycle of H's gen II caps at between 200-600mg.It was a 2 week cycle,i lost 8 lbs after the water weight left me.Lost 1 inch on the waste also.The caps where either wrongly dosed or i have a high tolerance to this stuff.Im guessing by the decent feedback on this product its the later. Apart from night sweats and carb cravings i was fine. Heres my current cycle lay out:

day 1-3 400mg
day 4-21 600mg

supps:

magnesium 1000mg
potassium 300mg
calcium 1000mg
ALA 2000mg
selenium 1000mg
vitamin c 2000mg
vitmain E 1000mg
green tea 325mg
San's Tight! 1 tab
L- carnatine 1500mg
T3 25mg
Dbol 30mg
milkthistle 1000mg
multi vitamin
benadryl on hand incase of alergic reaction



bf - 15%
waste 32.5


DAY 1:

I spread the 1st two caps 4 hrs apart.Think im actually feelin warmer already after 2nd cap.No hunger pains as yet.They hit me hard 1 week into my last cycle.Just about to do 30 mins med intensity cardio.

[Oxandrin]

try 21 days @ 200mg ED. lift and do cardio like normal.

[mic79]

21 days at 600mg should b safe enough if i take neccessary precausions.Im lookin to lose 11 lbs after the dust settles.

[Oxandrin]

Originally Posted by mic79

21 days at 600mg should b safe enough if i take neccessary precausions.Im lookin to lose 11 lbs after the dust settles.

I don't think you will be able to handle that high of a dose for 21 days....

just think:
insomnia
constantly hot sweaty
hungry
letharic

if you want to use high doses,,,,, try 2 10 day cycles with 10 days off in between

[Pup'nIrn]

Originally Posted by Oxandrin

I don't think you will be able to handle that high of a dose for 21 days....

just think:
insomnia
constantly hot sweaty
hungry
letharic

if you want to use high doses,,,,, try 2 10 day cycles with 10 days off in between

I throughly agree Ox. If the Bro, can handle no sleep that long then he is better than I.

The problem I find with the higher dosages is its tolerable until its time to sleep. Then you consider the lack of true REM sleep and it really takes a toll on you. I am finishing a 6 day cycle of 400-600mg/day and it builds up to be quite a kicker. I am just tired and want sleep and good lifts.

I am not sure what my results will be but I have stayed on the cardio and dieted strong the whole time...minus 2 cheat meals of carbs.

[Pup'nIrn]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Would eating something really cold and taking a cold bath before bed help? I would think some type of sugar free popsicle-type treat would work well.

Its always a good idea.....but it doesn't work but a few minutes. Its obvious you are new to the DNP game so don't mistake what someone says as "hot" to mean just cut the AC down some....Its pretty much hotter than hell if you eat one ounce of carbs and just miserable if you don't. (a lose/lose situation)

You go to sleep comfortable, wake up in a puddle of water in 30 min-1hr and then have to get up and find a dry spot. I sleep on my bed, a futon, and either of 2 sofas in the house.....you rotate every hour or 2.

Now don't get me wrong, some people don't respond the same to DNP dosages as others. Some require 200mg and others 800mg to yeild excellent results. Those results are not fun in the making for most and if they said they liked it, its because they live in Anartica and sleep on snow or they are full of shit.

Someone wrote a few days ago that DNP what "the easy way out"....he obviously had never used DNP and was speaking out of his ass.

[iron]

youd probably die though sooner than later

[mic79]

Its obvious i have a high tolerance to this stuff going by my last cycle.Only sides that i had where night sweats towards the end of the cycle,and yellow fluids.I didnt have a problem sleeping,apart from having to get out my bed 2 piss and drink more fluids.I really could have continued for another week or so i feel.If the DNP starts to take its toll beyond the 2nd week ill stop the cycle instantly.

[Pup'nIrn]

Originally Posted by Frosty

If I'm not mistaken, your body doesn't have a way to inhibit DNP via downregulation of anything. So theoretically, it could be effective forever.

Correct Frosty, the information out there backs that theory. If fact II have read where people took DNP for upto a year in the past and it continued to work.

[mic79]

Day 2:

I felt really hot after my 1st cap this morning.Too many carbs at once with this is a bad combo.Had to have the fan on from the off.I felt drowsy round about the same time i had my 2 nd cap,although this could be down to the dianabol.Strength didnt suffer though on my chest workout.I keep having the urge to feel for fat deposits on my body.Like every 5mins or so.im so damn obsessed.

[Peace Division]

I took anti-oxidants, milk thistle, and Tyler Detox during and for a week after my DNP cycles. As far as the bathroom situation goes, I went 3-5x/day while on (normally 1-2x/day) so I had no problems there.

As far as the sleeping situation goes, I really didn't have a problem falling asleep. I did have some melatonin on hand though. Hope this helps and be safe.

[Pup'nIrn]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Maybe if someone is going to do another cycle of DNP they could really bump up the liver support and see if it helps energy levels. Guys, I've never done DNP before...I'm just thinking out loud here.

Taking a detox formula is a neat idea. It definitely makes sense to me, at least. I'm going out on a limb here, but I would think all the crap being released into your blood at a rapid rate plays a role in the lethargy (not THE cause, just A cause). So perhaps it could make it more tolerable to do all this (definitely healthier).

Also, are cold baths recommended? It would definitely cool you off, but would this be too much of a shock to the system?

Bro, if you will do your homework on DNP, the Lethargic state your in is because your in a calorie negative state at all times and not toxins. The carbs you just ate are burned before you can use them. Atp is burned at high rates and therefore muscle contractions become work to perform.

Its like consuming 100% protein in a diet with only 75% the calories you need to survive on.....how energized do you think you will be?

[Pup'nIrn]

Originally Posted by Frosty

It's just a suggestion. Perhaps it could help someone out to try those things - I don't know.

I've had calorie deficits of around 2000 cals for a month, and while I was constantly hungry, I could still workout fine (even though maximal strength was down). No, it's not the same as with DNP, but calorie deficits for that short of a time (9-14 days) shouldn't have that strong of an effect on you. Yes, it will have an effect, but I would think it has to do with the ATP burning more than anything. But I also think it's a possibility that lots of released toxins could induce further lethargy. That would be very individual, though. Just an idea.

Read Heretics peice on DNP. It will explain enought to understand. You are cutting into the cycle that replenishes the ATP stores. Forcing burn off rather than storage. When storages are drained...your are drained. Plus, lack of sleep and a constant hot flash seem to promote lethargy.

[mic79]

Last night i sweated all night long.Only my 2nd day as well which is odd coz this is the way i was feeling 3 days into 600mg on my previous cycle. Couldnt sleep for the life of me.Kept thinking i would dehydrate in my sleep hence why i drank throughout.

With regards to ATP.Would creatine be beneficial post dnp cycle?

Originally Posted by Frosty

Yes, I read through all that. What I'm saying is, let's say instead of a change in ATP usage, it's a change in oxygen usage. You still run a calorie deficit, but hell if you'll be able to do much activity since oxygen usage is way down. What I'm saying is large amounts of toxins or an over burdened liver won't help you out at all and could promote further problems. Just like a lack of sleep will screw you up more, along with the hot flashes - these will ADD to lethargy but aren't the main cause of it. I'm suggesting toxins/overloaded liver could possibly add to lethargy, not that they're the main cause of it.

[Pup'nIrn]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Yes, I read through all that. What I'm saying is, let's say instead of a change in ATP usage, it's a change in oxygen usage. You still run a calorie deficit, but hell if you'll be able to do much activity since oxygen usage is way down. What I'm saying is large amounts of toxins or an over burdened liver won't help you out at all and could promote further problems. Just like a lack of sleep will screw you up more, along with the hot flashes - these will ADD to lethargy but aren't the main cause of it. I'm suggesting toxins/overloaded liver could possibly add to lethargy, not that they're the main cause of it.

Look no flame BRo, just try it then. I have not tried any detox methods with DNP. Might work but we will never know until we have someone who has run DNP traditional method and then with detox products to compare. If your about to strat, give it a try. I would be glad to accept a new method that made me feel better than DNP does.