250mg test e and 200mg equipoise every 3 days

[Bogatyr]

Too much for 4th cycle?

195lb
14 years training
10-12 body fat % (closer to 10% now)
5' 10" height
3 months since last cycle of 500mg test e and 400 equi ew for 10 weeks


Lost most gains since last cycle because I started cutting too soon (test has not recovered)



Question 2: Thinking about starting and ending with 2 weeks of prop 100 ed. worth it?

Thanks bros in advance!

[robyflexx]

Originally Posted by Bogatyr

Too much for 4th cycle?

195lb
14 years training
10-12 body fat % (closer to 10% now)
5' 10" height
3 months since last cycle of 500mg test e and 400 equi ew for 10 weeks


Lost most gains since last cycle because I started cutting too soon (test has not recovered)



Question 2: Thinking about starting and ending with 2 weeks of prop 100 ed. worth it?

Thanks bros in advance!

What was your PCT like for your last cycle? It could have something to do with loosing your gains and not recovering your test levels.

[Bogatyr]

PCT was pretty good HCG while on cycle 100iu every other day kept the boys plump. finished up the cycle with 3 weeks of prop 100mg eod.

3 days after last injection clomid for 2 weeks. 150 for the first 3 days, then 50 for the remainder. At the same tme as clomid nolva 20mg for 4 weeks ed.

I think PCT has to be spot on since I felt great and never had the low. I think it has to be the cardio. Someone told me dont start cardio or limiting calories too soon, but i did not listen.

[robyflexx]

Originally Posted by Bogatyr

PCT was pretty good HCG while on cycle 100iu every other day kept the boys plump. finished up the cycle with 3 weeks of prop 100mg eod.

3 days after last injection clomid for 2 weeks. 150 for the first 3 days, then 50 for the remainder. At the same tme as clomid nolva 20mg for 4 weeks ed.

I think PCT has to be spot on since I felt great and never had the low. I think it has to be the cardio. Someone told me dont start cardio or limiting calories too soon, but i did not listen.

PCT doesn't look so bad. Did you lower your caloric intake immediately? This could be a reason for loosing gains.

[Bogatyr]

waited about a week, then started cutting gradually from 5000 calories to about 2800 per day.

[robyflexx]

Originally Posted by Bogatyr

waited about a week, then started cutting gradually from 5000 calories to about 2800 per day.

That did it.

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by robyflexx

That did it.

It sure did. It can be hard to find the amount of calories just to maintain. I dont know what everyone else does, but after cycle I'll drop my calories by 500 then wait a few weeks then repeat if all went well. The second I see a significant weight loss I go up 500 or whatever it takes. Everyone is different and thats the hard part. Its all trial and error. If anyone else has a good system to find the amount of maintenance calories needed please post it. Good subject.

[robyflexx]

I generally keep consuming a high caloric amount until i'm satisfied my gains are solidified.

[Bogatyr]

Thanks guys. What do you think about the cycle? too much for 4th?

[robyflexx]

Originally Posted by Bogatyr

Thanks guys. What do you think about the cycle? too much for 4th?

I think it was fine...i mean it was also a relatively safe cycle too. JMO