2nd cycle...

[Porthos]

hey all

first cycle was 30mgs dbol and 500mgs sustanon for 8 weeks - maintained after pct 14 lbs of lbm - been off cycle for 3 months now...

started my second cycle today -- 40mgs dbol for the first 3 weeks and 750mgs sustanon for 12 weeks...

pct will be nolv -- 5 weeks starting 2 weeks after last pin -- 40, 20, 20, 10, 10


comments or recommendations regarding the cycle and dosages are always welcome....

[bigbench]

Looks pretty good to me. Going for the full 12 weeks is a much better choice. Esp for the sust. It has some esters that really take a while to kick in and 8 weeks is just not long enough to get all the benefits

[Porthos]

yah I wanted to do a light cycle for my first time - simply to see how it would affect me...

I just wanted to be as safe as possible -- now that I know my body reacts well I am going to work for the maximum benifit each time I cycle whle still being safe.

thanks for the comments

[EPOWER]

Looks good bro. Keep us updated with stats before durning and after. Always fun to see people growing like monsters. Rememmber eat right train hard!

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[dennis]

Originally Posted by Porthos

hey all

first cycle was 30mgs dbol and 500mgs sustanon for 8 weeks - maintained after pct 14 lbs of lbm - been off cycle for 3 months now...

started my second cycle today -- 40mgs dbol for the first 3 weeks and 750mgs sustanon for 12 weeks...

pct will be nolv -- 5 weeks starting 2 weeks after last pin -- 40, 20, 20, 10, 10


comments or recommendations regarding the cycle and dosages are always welcome....

Port..good to have you back bro.....You probably should have laid off more than 3 months between cycles but I know you did not want to hear that.Also with upping the sust be ready for sore nips..have adex or the like on hand.I would highly recomend using hcg during this one as well.The dbol could have been left off this cycle .The sust will not clear your system in 2 weeks like enth or cyp will..hold off on pct till 18-20 days after last shot..also plan on 40 mgs nolva first 3 days..then go to 20 mgs ed for 4 weeks then go to 10 mgs for atleast 1 week..If I remember correctly you are a young guy...do not buy into time on = time off for gear...not enough recoop in between cycles is not healthy.Since you are using dbol you might consider not using it at first of cycle and saving some of it and using it during the end of the cycle..say weeks 10-14..just a thought.

[Porthos]

Originally Posted by dennis

Port..good to have you back bro.....You probably should have laid off more than 3 months between cycles but I know you did not want to hear that.Also with upping the sust be ready for sore nips..have adex or the like on hand.I would highly recomend using hcg during this one as well.The dbol could have been left off this cycle .The sust will not clear your system in 2 weeks like enth or cyp will..hold off on pct till 18-20 days after last shot..also plan on 40 mgs nolva first 3 days..then go to 20 mgs ed for 4 weeks then go to 10 mgs for atleast 1 week..If I remember correctly you are a young guy...do not buy into time on = time off for gear...not enough recoop in between cycles is not healthy.Since you are using dbol you might consider not using it at first of cycle and saving some of it and using it during the end of the cycle..say weeks 10-14..just a thought.

hmmm good points in there Dennis...

I am 29 years old -- so old enough to know better but young enough to not care

but seriously, the reason I love the dbol at the beginning is jump start ... the second work out and I could already feel the deep dbol pump...its sooo nice
So you are saying closer to 3 weeks before I jump in on the Nolv... that actually makes sense ... casue after my last cycle it wasn't till the end of the third week before I really started noticing the difference...

kewl ... well I will keep you all updated.
thanks

[dennis]

sust was designed to last 1 month per injection..I think we have figured out though roughly 3 weeks is how long it takes to drop off.I can understand your point about the dbol at first of cycle..some of the things you are feeling early on though is the short esthers in the sust.If you can get some var try taking it weeks 8-15 you will love this..especially the 3 weeks you are waiting to take your pct..for me those 3 weeks are the best of my cycle.Or if you have dbol left over take it daily after last shot of sust untill the day you start pct.

[Porthos]

hmmm anavar... yah I can get it... just never really thought about it as a bridge over to PCT... actually thats not a bad idea.

I suppose the reason you like it so much during the last 3 weeks is cause the water is coming off and the anavar gives you that nice dry hard look while still stacking with the sust left in your system and keeping your strength up?

[bigbench]

Yeah, I agree Dennis, I love adding an oral at the end to sort of keep up levels while waiting for the test to clear. I would say that var and winny are my two favorites so far because they sort of help tighten the muscles as the water weight begins to drop of from lower test levels and then its not such a huge loss when I come completely off. I would like to try tbol at the end of my next cycle to see how my body reacts to it. That is the one im really looking to try out.

[dennis]

There is always something mental going on with me during those 2-3 weeks of waiting to start nolva..it is a certain negativity about getting smaller and losing gains..the feeling of the test levels dropping in your system sucks.This is why I like to "spike" my levels with a good oral like var or stano..it actually keeps me gaining during those 2-3 weeks and my strength always continues to increase..ALWAYS ! My mental focus stays strong too..it actually stretches your cycle an additional 2 weeksI have never used dbol before during end of cycle but know a few guys on here who recently did just that..maybe one of them will share with us what it did for him.....Also another good point about using var or stano at end is this: After 3/4 of your cycle is over it is a good thing to introduce a new steroid to the receptors at that time...just my thoughts.

[Porthos]

hmmm those are really good points....

I am seriously going to consider var as a options for 5 weeks at the end...

thanks Den

[Porthos]

BTW what are your dosages on the var?

20-30mgs / day ?

[dennis]

I like 30-40 mgs the wife likes 10 !

[Juicaholic]

Cycle looks good. Only thing I would change would be to run the dbol for the first 4 wks and not just 3. Also if you use var, go with at least 40mg/day.

[advanced-stealth]

Nice looking cycle bro!

Do the DBol for 4 weeks.

And I agree with dennis, throw that Var in there you will love it.