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Old 09-30-2009, 03:03 PM
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I always run Tren e with Test e. Makes for easier injects 2x EW. Of course, if you have bad sides you can't get off the Tren right away with a longer ester, but I don't think this is much of an issue if you begin with, say, 200 mg EW. You can always move up from there, adding 100 mg each two weeks. I wouldn' go more than 500 EW for a second cycle however. (In fact, 400 should be plenty with all that Test.)

That's a lot of Dbol. Do you really want to puff up with water & enjoy indigestion? It's up to you, of course, because once you're done the Dbol, your body will begin to lean out & transform you into a vascular, dense-muscled mo'fucker from the Test & Tren. Hey, changes are fun.

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What's up MESO? I'm finally getting a little extra time to poke my nose above water, and wanted to run this by you guys and get some feedback. I have some wiggle room, so let me know what you all think....

wk 1 - 13 Test E. 750mg /WK
wk 1 - 6 Dbol 60 mg/ED
wk 9 - 13 Tren Ace 700mg/WK

PCT

wk 15 - 18 Nolva (40-20-20-20)

I will have a shit ton of dbol, so if it would be ok to run some at the end of the cycle, i could do that also
Also, what is the best way to go with the Tren? daily shots, or is 3x a week ok? It's ok to mix it with the test right?
If you stick to those doses I would consider using more than Nolvadex for PCT. You may want

the old hCG, Nolva, Clomid therapy...read the PCT sticky. gives a nice breakdown. You may

also want to research hCg thru the cycle. Weeks 4-13 @ 1000iu every 5 days for example.
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You may also want to research hCg thru the cycle. Weeks 4-13 @ 1000iu every 5 days for example.
After further research, I think HCG is a really good idea with this cycle. I will be using it definitely... along with the 40-20-20-20 Nolva. I will not use clomid ever again. I used it for PCT on my first cycle, and I was an emotional wreck.

Now this may sound stupid to most of you, but you can't mix HCG with IM injections, right? Isn't HCG supposed to be sub-Q?

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After further research, I think HCG is a really good idea with this cycle. I will be using it definitely... along with the 40-20-20-20 Nolva. I will not use clomid ever again. I used it for PCT on my first cycle, and I was an emotional wreck.

Now this may sound stupid to most of you, but you can't mix HCG with IM injections, right? Isn't HCG supposed to be sub-Q?
250iu HCG e4d is the way to go while on cycle. Keeps your balls working. HCG can be injected IM but most users opt for sub-q. I have never heard of someone mxing it with other aas though.
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250iu HCG e4d is the way to go while on cycle. Keeps your balls working. HCG can be injected IM but most users opt for sub-q. I have never heard of someone mxing it with other aas though.
Agreed it will keep the sack hanging low and make you shoot like a porn star. The 250 twice a week is a good dose to run with the tren to prevent any raisins.
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Its that time huh? I'm going to run something similar to this myself man, def go with the HCG and start the tren low, maybe even a week earlier than you had posted just to taper it up to feel it out....if Dbol spiked your BP, couldnt tren?
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After further research, I think HCG is a really good idea with this cycle. I will be using it definitely... along with the 40-20-20-20 Nolva. I will not use clomid ever again. I used it for PCT on my first cycle, and I was an emotional wreck.

Now this may sound stupid to most of you, but you can't mix HCG with IM injections, right? Isn't HCG supposed to be sub-Q?
you can shoot HCG IM with your AAS-although i have never done it. HCG may help you burn fat-so shooting it sub-q in the belly will be a bonus for me.
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First, thanks guys for posting here.

I have to say... I am pretty set on the Tren. I have talked to a couple buddies that had excellent results when running it toward the end of their cycles. The dosage I am flexible on. Just hypothetically, if I was to run 600 mg/WK, would it be ok to just do 200mg every mon, wed & fri. That way I could run the test and tren together and only have to pin 3x a WK.

Also...Dbol at the end of the cycle also? I will have plenty on hand. Or is that overkill?
I have only heard of ED and EOD injections with tren ace-and 75-150mg EOD seems to always yield results.

I would rather keep the tren injections EOD and move the test e inject by a day each week.
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you can shoot HCG IM with your AAS-although i have never done it. HCG may help you burn fat-so shooting it sub-q in the belly will be a bonus for me.
Just curious if anyone has any experience mixing HCG with AAS for IM shots,,,
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Just curious if anyone has any experience mixing HCG with AAS for IM shots,,,
why do it IM?

are you trying one of those 1000mcg IM shots once a week things??

but whatever, rule is water with water, and oils with oils.. so if you mix it just do so with compounds in similar solvents..

i think it works better in the fat...
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