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Old 09-19-2007, 08:00 PM
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Okay, my PCT from my first cycle is through, kept some of my gains and am sitting right under 14% BF as of Monday.

Now then, I have everything but my ancillaries for my second cycle.

I'm planning on running 500 mgs. test (250 x2)
300 mgs Deca

I am looking into pharmaceutical grade Nolva this time, didn't much like the research chem I used.

I have a decent amount of Letro on hand, should I just plan on using that to fight the gyno I KNOW will happen, or what?

Is Adex a wise(r) choice?

Help a brother out, I want to do it RIGHT this time.........
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Okay, my PCT from my first cycle is through, kept some of my gains and am sitting right under 14% BF as of Monday.

Now then, I have everything but my ancillaries for my second cycle.

I'm planning on running 500 mgs. test (250 x2)
300 mgs Deca

I am looking into pharmaceutical grade Nolva this time, didn't much like the research chem I used.

I have a decent amount of Letro on hand, should I just plan on using that to fight the gyno I KNOW will happen, or what?

Is Adex a wise(r) choice?

Help a brother out, I want to do it RIGHT this time.........

First, Id bump the deca to atleast 400mg/week maybe even 500, 300 is kinda low and you might not get much from it

adex @ .25mg eod should be a good choice, letro will work too, 1mg ed or eod would prolly be best


personally I'd go w adex, never used letro
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and as for pct, nolva @ 40/40/20/20/20/20/10/5

clomid for the first 2 weeks @ 50mg day... thats just a personal preference, clomid brings my boys right back after a couple days, but nolva is better for the lengthy pct
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Yeah, I'm a little uneasy with the Letro, when I used it half way through my first cycle I had some minor ED and libido issues that I weren't cool.

My Deca is dosed @ 200 per ML, I would need to acquire some more if I were to up the dose.

I'm actually not sure I will even run the test e at 500, by week 5 I was so bloated I couldn't stand it......
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Yeah, I'm a little uneasy with the Letro, when I used it half way through my first cycle I had some minor ED and libido issues that I weren't cool.

My Deca is dosed @ 200 per ML, I would need to acquire some more if I were to up the dose.

I'm actually not sure I will even run the test e at 500, by week 5 I was so bloated I couldn't stand it......


Adex will totally cut down on bloat!

you shouldnt gain any water weight if you take adex throughout

and if u have ED problems, and your test dose is higher than the other steroid, thats kinda weird... maybe some proviron would help that... or cialis
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I believe the ED could have come from the Letro. What was the dose you took and what was your last cycle?

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