6th Week on Test with minimal results..

[DMO92784]

I am currently starting my 6th week on test. cypionate, I am seeing very minimal results, my diet isnt perfect but there is no lack of eating and supplementing my diet with shakes. Could the test just be taking a little longer to kick in or could there be other factors having to do with me not really gaining size?

[role model]

Originally Posted by DMO92784

I am currently starting my 6th week on test. cypionate, I am seeing very minimal results, my diet isnt perfect but there is no lack of eating and supplementing my diet with shakes. Could the test just be taking a little longer to kick in or could there be other factors having to do with me not really gaining size?

My guess is that the gear you bought is fake. But...
I first need to know how much your taking per week?
If its 300mg/wk or more than its fake.

[DIE KRAFT]

I Too Have Been Through The Same Senario. Very Minimal Strength Or Mass Gains. My Age Is 49 And Think This May Be An Issue. I Was Thinking I Could Get The Same Feelings/results I Experienced Some 28 Years Ago. But No - I Saw Zilch And Think What I Got Was Bogus. So I Went And Purchased Another 10 Week Cycle From A Reputable Source. And Still Got Zero! Wtf! Is It The Sign Of The Times?

[DIE KRAFT]

RoleModel - pm me and I will give you specific detalis.

[role model]

Originally Posted by DIE KRAFT

I Too Have Been Through The Same Senario. Very Minimal Strength Or Mass Gains. My Age Is 49 And Think This May Be An Issue. I Was Thinking I Could Get The Same Feelings/results I Experienced Some 28 Years Ago. But No - I Saw Zilch And Think What I Got Was Bogus. So I Went And Purchased Another 10 Week Cycle From A Reputable Source. And Still Got Zero! Wtf! Is It The Sign Of The Times?

Reputable Source? Your sure about that? I doubt it.
Places like steroid.com and legal steroids.com are all fake.
I know a guy that bought d-bol from these places and not only
were they more expensive than the real stuff, but it came in a
capsule with ground up brown weeds in it. LOL
Sorry bro that ain't d-bol.

[role model]

Originally Posted by DIE KRAFT

RoleModel - pm me and I will give you specific detalis.

My PM doesn't work unless you have over 6 months or 200 posts, whatever comes first.

[DMO92784]

I know the stuff I got is not a fake because my strength has gone up lifting more than I have ever in the past and I have also got some sides to the cycle with puffyness and a hard lump in my right nipple. I was on Nolva to take care of that and then Letrozole to get rid of the lump. I know Letro could effect gains but not by much. Is there anyway that it could just not be kicking in right away in this specific case?

[DMO92784]

Also I have been doing 300/mg twice a week

[role model]

Originally Posted by DMO92784

I know the stuff I got is not a fake because my strength has gone up lifting more than I have ever in the past and I have also got some sides to the cycle with puffyness and a hard lump in my right nipple. I was on Nolva to take care of that and then Letrozole to get rid of the lump. I know Letro could effect gains but not by much. Is there anyway that it could just not be kicking in right away in this specific case?

Your not making any sense,
First you say, "It Is just not kicking in yet."
Then you say, "my strength has gone up more than ever."

What would you have liked to happen, put on 20lbs in 30 days?

If your getting enough protein and keeping your reps @ 12 or less going to failure it will happen.
But it takes time.
If your putting on a pound a week your average but you cannot count the first 3 wks since its cyp.
12lbs on a cycle is avg.
Testosterone Cypionate half-life is 12 days so by day 24 you should start seeing results.


Drug Active half-life
Deca-durabolin (Nandrolone decanate) 15 days
Equipoise 14 days
Finaject (trenbolone acetate) 3 days
Primobolan (methenolone enanthate) 10.5 days
Sustanon or Omnadren 15 days
Testosterone Cypionate 12 days
Testosterone Enanthate 10.5 days
Testosterone Propionate 4.5 days
Testosterone Suspension 1 day
* Winstrol (stanozolol) 1 day

[DMO92784]

Im sorry I did not specify.. gains in size is what I am referring to.. my strength is up but not by much. I am just saying I do not think I got fake test. But since I am on my 6th week I would of expected some gains by now, I am not counting the 3-4 weeks in the beginning but by now dont you think I should be seeing some significant gains in size?

[role model]

Originally Posted by DMO92784

Im sorry I did not specify.. gains in size is what I am referring to.. my strength is up but not by much. I am just saying I do not think I got fake test. But since I am on my 6th week I would of expected some gains by now, I am not counting the 3-4 weeks in the beginning but by now dont you think I should be seeing some significant gains in size?

significant gains in size=no
5 lbs=yes

You need to put your whole routine down, both eating and lifting
Height weight etc.
before we can help.

[DMO92784]

I am 5'10, starting wieght of 163-165 lbs, I tend to fluctuate alot and now I am 170. I do not measure out my cal, protein, or carb intake, however I try to eat as much as I can as many times I can and then have protein shakes throughout the day. My diet I am not worried about my diet so much but I may be mistaken, I keep my calories up with foods that are higher in protein and carbs.
My lifting routine is mostly low reps with all exercies, max reps of 12 for the first set, working down from 10, 8, 6 reps. My first exercise that day I will do four sets, then four more exercises of 3 sets each. I do tend to fluctuate my exercise routine also.
Monday- Chest
Tuesday- Back, Bi
Wed- Legs
Thursday- Shoulders
Friday- Chest, tri

By the five pounds you wrote above, did you mean for the time I am at now in my cycle or overall gains. I am doing a 12 week long cycle. Am I expecting too much from this cycle?

[andysutils]

Originally Posted by DMO92784

I do not measure out my cal, protein, or carb intake, however I try to eat as much as I can as many times I can

BINGO, theres your problem right there, even without steriodsyour diet should be spot on, logged and every bit of nutrition is accounted for, logged day in and day out.

AAS is totally diet dependant, period, always remember that bro.

Originally Posted by role model

Reputable Source? Your sure about that? I doubt it.
Places like steroid.com and legal steroids.com are all fake.
I know a guy that bought d-bol from these places and not only
were they more expensive than the real stuff, but it came in a
capsule with ground up brown weeds in it. LOL
Sorry bro that ain't d-bol.

yeh rolemodel that legal steriods site PMSL, i noticed they sell liquid anadrol on there LMAO, i mean WTF is liquid anadrol?

[bigbench]

You HAVE to know your diet just like Andy said. I know guys that swear they are eating 5000 cals a day and when they count up, they are only eating 2800 or so. You want to be getting in around 4000 cals. On your Fri workout, make sure not to overdue your chest again or you will overtrain it. Are you doing any cardio too? Also, to answer your earlier question, the nolva and letro will have a HUGE impact on your gains. If you have stopped the gyno, try to cut back to only 10mgs of nolva ed or eod to keep it away but not to hinder your gains.

[role model]

Originally Posted by DMO92784

By the five pounds you wrote above, did you mean for the time I am at now in my cycle or overall gains. I am doing a 12 week long cycle. Am I expecting too much from this cycle?

I meant where your at now, not the whole cycle.
And you said "My diet I am not worried about my diet so much."
Thats as important as anything. In fact more important than anything.

90% of the people who are having trouble gaining size find there diet is the problem.

Educate yourself about nutrition.
I even heard some morons say that pasta is high in protein.
And another moron said the most important meal is 30min before you workout.
Nothing is further from the truth, People need to educate themselves and things work out much nicer.

Andy and BB both speak the truth so please start keeping track of everything you eat.
You can start here. And don't guess at amounts, weigh it, you'll be suprised at the amounts and be saying "WOW! Thats 6 ounces?" I know I did when I First started lifting seriously and counting my food.
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