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funny stuff ahaha...hate to seem ungratful just never had any of my questions asked bro. i'm not going on deca i decided on sustanon and am going to stack it with anavar. Plus some novaldex. If my bench is at 365 now i wonder what it will get up to next year? I've been researching the past couple days. haha yeah i try and wear rubbers don't worry about it. Thanks for the comments!
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OOOOHHK Hotshot... I'm newer here and currently "doing my duty" these other guys have done it so many times they just dont have it in them right now... Plus this environment is very hot right now... with regard to growth plates. I believe this is important. Especially for you. I dont think they fuse till 21 or 22 for many. There are many documented growth spurts after the age of 19. You add exogenous testosterone and you WILL FUSE THEM FOR SURE. You many not even be getting any taller, but things are still getting thicker and tougher, I am sure. If you are a talented athelete, should not juice and ruin yourself at this juncture. The guys like Barry Bonds, Canseco, etc). The need them cause once you are about 25 you will truely start to decline in test. AND YOU WILL KNOW IT. They have to add back some juice to compete, because you simply cant recover without high levels of testosterone. Your feet will even hurt around 32!! SImple testosterone sup will do. BUT you may go fucking nuts considering you current levels. And if you make it through, that will be the day you need to supp to be where you are now.

With regard to weight. You are what you eat. You need to educate yourself on proper nutrition and how to add the right calories. Take VInce McMahan for example (WWF guy). As a young guy you look at him and say look what juice can do. It does nothing but equalize him with YOU!!! He may have the best doctors getting him test and GH, but, that only puts him at the levels of both you are already at. This person is a consumate professional with desire and determination that not many in the world posess. I guarantee you he has not had more than one Mcdonalds combo per year for the last decade. This is a person that designs his entire life around his goals, from what time he gets up, to the last ounce her eats. This is how you succeed. The guys around you may appear to have gained from the juice, but did they, or did they have those attributes naturally.

I met a guy in college that had a nice set of titties. He told me he juiced and GH and that was what he got. Everyone is different. Some ignorant bastards can get away with shooting themselves in the head and live. ANyway, He could wear a nice C cup now and what for. You are giong to have enough to deal with down the road when you are less active and trying to explain to your body why it cant eat like that and you are telling it to stopp putting fat where all that muscle once was. And by the way, fat is about 3 times larger than muscle. You will hold the amount of weight in the areas your body is set to hold it.

You have to weigh the game. How far can you really go. If you are talented enough to make it, you wont need them till 25. Then you will also know if it is worth it. BUT, if you are hell bent on opening pandoras perverbial box, you better do some more reading. I have met and know several professional atheletes. It does not matter what they do, whatever sport, business, family. They are consumate and they are Scratch!! There are few exceptions such as Deon, He could probably smoke and drink all night and still smoke a 4.1...... If you had enough discipline to succeed, you would have already read this site backwards and forwards and you would know the answers without even asking.

Testosterone is the greatest supp on the planet. I believe everyone age 32 and up should be on it just to walk down the street. You will never even understand/appreciate this if you dont wait till you really need it. You have enough test in your body now. THe only thing more could do is dirve you so crazy that you have to focus harder just to keep from going nuts. You can accomplish this same state of mind with desire and focus.

FInally, be sure and have all your blood work done prior to beginning and jiuce so that you will be sure and know the damage you have done when you are finished. It will help to demonstrate where you will be "lacking" when you are done playing ball and no longer have the time to exercise. You want to know just how bad you hurt your body so you can measure the cost.price.. It will help the endocrinologist diagnose and treat future related issues. And maybe (if you chose not to juice), it can show you where you are today, so that when you are 32, you can see where you have declined through years, and which natural levels felt best so that you will know how to properly supp your hormones when the time is right.

Call me a softy..... And by the way, if you want to succeed, QUIT FUCKING DRINKING BEFORE YOU WIND UP AN ASSHOLE WHO NEEDS 6-9 DRINKS A NIGHT TO BE NORMAL, Like me
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OOOOHHK Hotshot... I'm newer here and currently "doing my duty" these other guys have done it so many times they just dont have it in them right now... Plus this environment is very hot right now... with regard to growth plates. I believe this is important. Especially for you. I dont think they fuse till 21 or 22 for many. There are many documented growth spurts after the age of 19. You add exogenous testosterone and you WILL FUSE THEM FOR SURE. You many not even be getting any taller, but things are still getting thicker and tougher, I am sure. If you are a talented athelete, should not juice and ruin yourself at this juncture. The guys like Barry Bonds, Canseco, etc). The need them cause once you are about 25 you will truely start to decline in test. AND YOU WILL KNOW IT. They have to add back some juice to compete, because you simply cant recover without high levels of testosterone. Your feet will even hurt around 32!! SImple testosterone sup will do. BUT you may go fucking nuts considering you current levels. And if you make it through, that will be the day you need to supp to be where you are now.

With regard to weight. You are what you eat. You need to educate yourself on proper nutrition and how to add the right calories. Take VInce McMahan for example (WWF guy). As a young guy you look at him and say look what juice can do. It does nothing but equalize him with YOU!!! He may have the best doctors getting him test and GH, but, that only puts him at the levels of both you are already at. This person is a consumate professional with desire and determination that not many in the world posess. I guarantee you he has not had more than one Mcdonalds combo per year for the last decade. This is a person that designs his entire life around his goals, from what time he gets up, to the last ounce her eats. This is how you succeed. The guys around you may appear to have gained from the juice, but did they, or did they have those attributes naturally.

I met a guy in college that had a nice set of titties. He told me he juiced and GH and that was what he got. Everyone is different. Some ignorant bastards can get away with shooting themselves in the head and live. ANyway, He could wear a nice C cup now and what for. You are giong to have enough to deal with down the road when you are less active and trying to explain to your body why it cant eat like that and you are telling it to stopp putting fat where all that muscle once was. And by the way, fat is about 3 times larger than muscle. You will hold the amount of weight in the areas your body is set to hold it.

You have to weigh the game. How far can you really go. If you are talented enough to make it, you wont need them till 25. Then you will also know if it is worth it. BUT, if you are hell bent on opening pandoras perverbial box, you better do some more reading. I have met and know several professional atheletes. It does not matter what they do, whatever sport, business, family. They are consumate and they are Scratch!! There are few exceptions such as Deon, He could probably smoke and drink all night and still smoke a 4.1...... If you had enough discipline to succeed, you would have already read this site backwards and forwards and you would know the answers without even asking.

Testosterone is the greatest supp on the planet. I believe everyone age 32 and up should be on it just to walk down the street. You will never even understand/appreciate this if you dont wait till you really need it. You have enough test in your body now. THe only thing more could do is dirve you so crazy that you have to focus harder just to keep from going nuts. You can accomplish this same state of mind with desire and focus.

FInally, be sure and have all your blood work done prior to beginning and jiuce so that you will be sure and know the damage you have done when you are finished. It will help to demonstrate where you will be "lacking" when you are done playing ball and no longer have the time to exercise. You want to know just how bad you hurt your body so you can measure the cost.price.. It will help the endocrinologist diagnose and treat future related issues. And maybe (if you chose not to juice), it can show you where you are today, so that when you are 32, you can see where you have declined through years, and which natural levels felt best so that you will know how to properly supp your hormones when the time is right.

Call me a softy..... And by the way, if you want to succeed, QUIT FUCKING DRINKING BEFORE YOU WIND UP AN ASSHOLE WHO NEEDS 6-9 DRINKS A NIGHT TO BE NORMAL, Like me
Very good post! Come on now you're just jokin'?, You're not an alcoholic are you?
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Very good post! Come on now you're just jokin'?, You're not an alcoholic are you?
Well, you really have to define alcoholic. In Ireland, the definition is someone who goes nuts and acts like a drunk idiot when they drink..... As long as you can be happy while drinking and be nice, they do not consider you to be an alcho..... I will say it like some drunk ass redneck said it to me when I was younger. "hell, I aint drunk, I'm just drinkin". And yes, I have now found myself in the precarious position of needing to have at least a couple to "relax". Alcohol is the funniest drug I have ever encounter. So is our society for that matter. EVERY single bad thing that has ever happened to me, or that I have done, alcohol was involved. Yet I still persist. It is ok in moderation. The problem is that it seems it will find a way to get the best of you from time to time. I stay away from liquer, Hell I dont even know her!!!!!!
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Drinking never gave me a problem like that. Women always have though!

A guy once asked me, how do you hold your licker? I said by the ears.
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What worries me is that homeboy is in college so he's going to go with what his boys and connect tell him..

Winny is no good for you bro. I think you should wait.. Maybe consider some natural test boosters.. Help you be a little more nitrogen positive and over all more naturally anabolic. If you're still set on gear, start researching Equipoise and Test P..low doses should have an excellent effect on performance.
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OOOOHHK Hotshot... I'm newer here and currently "doing my duty" these other guys have done it so many times they just dont have it in them right now... Plus this environment is very hot right now... with regard to growth plates. I believe this is important. Especially for you. I dont think they fuse till 21 or 22 for many. There are many documented growth spurts after the age of 19. You add exogenous testosterone and you WILL FUSE THEM FOR SURE. You many not even be getting any taller, but things are still getting thicker and tougher, I am sure. If you are a talented athelete, should not juice and ruin yourself at this juncture. The guys like Barry Bonds, Canseco, etc). The need them cause once you are about 25 you will truely start to decline in test. AND YOU WILL KNOW IT. They have to add back some juice to compete, because you simply cant recover without high levels of testosterone. Your feet will even hurt around 32!! SImple testosterone sup will do. BUT you may go fucking nuts considering you current levels. And if you make it through, that will be the day you need to supp to be where you are now.

With regard to weight. You are what you eat. You need to educate yourself on proper nutrition and how to add the right calories. Take VInce McMahan for example (WWF guy). As a young guy you look at him and say look what juice can do. It does nothing but equalize him with YOU!!! He may have the best doctors getting him test and GH, but, that only puts him at the levels of both you are already at. This person is a consumate professional with desire and determination that not many in the world posess. I guarantee you he has not had more than one Mcdonalds combo per year for the last decade. This is a person that designs his entire life around his goals, from what time he gets up, to the last ounce her eats. This is how you succeed. The guys around you may appear to have gained from the juice, but did they, or did they have those attributes naturally.

I met a guy in college that had a nice set of titties. He told me he juiced and GH and that was what he got. Everyone is different. Some ignorant bastards can get away with shooting themselves in the head and live. ANyway, He could wear a nice C cup now and what for. You are giong to have enough to deal with down the road when you are less active and trying to explain to your body why it cant eat like that and you are telling it to stopp putting fat where all that muscle once was. And by the way, fat is about 3 times larger than muscle. You will hold the amount of weight in the areas your body is set to hold it.

You have to weigh the game. How far can you really go. If you are talented enough to make it, you wont need them till 25. Then you will also know if it is worth it. BUT, if you are hell bent on opening pandoras perverbial box, you better do some more reading. I have met and know several professional atheletes. It does not matter what they do, whatever sport, business, family. They are consumate and they are Scratch!! There are few exceptions such as Deon, He could probably smoke and drink all night and still smoke a 4.1...... If you had enough discipline to succeed, you would have already read this site backwards and forwards and you would know the answers without even asking.

Testosterone is the greatest supp on the planet. I believe everyone age 32 and up should be on it just to walk down the street. You will never even understand/appreciate this if you dont wait till you really need it. You have enough test in your body now. THe only thing more could do is dirve you so crazy that you have to focus harder just to keep from going nuts. You can accomplish this same state of mind with desire and focus.

FInally, be sure and have all your blood work done prior to beginning and jiuce so that you will be sure and know the damage you have done when you are finished. It will help to demonstrate where you will be "lacking" when you are done playing ball and no longer have the time to exercise. You want to know just how bad you hurt your body so you can measure the cost.price.. It will help the endocrinologist diagnose and treat future related issues. And maybe (if you chose not to juice), it can show you where you are today, so that when you are 32, you can see where you have declined through years, and which natural levels felt best so that you will know how to properly supp your hormones when the time is right.

Call me a softy..... And by the way, if you want to succeed, QUIT FUCKING DRINKING BEFORE YOU WIND UP AN ASSHOLE WHO NEEDS 6-9 DRINKS A NIGHT TO BE NORMAL, Like me
Very very good post thank you!
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What worries me is that homeboy is in college so he's going to go with what his boys and connect tell him..

Winny is no good for you bro. I think you should wait.. Maybe consider some natural test boosters.. Help you be a little more nitrogen positive and over all more naturally anabolic. If you're still set on gear, start researching Equipoise and Test P..low doses should have an excellent effect on performance.
This is true I have been listening a lot to what some players on the team and some people i know that have juiced in the past have said. I have heard a lot of good things about sustanon and a lot of bad things about dbol, anabol and winny etc. I have also been researching sustanon and it's mixture with anavar it seems to be low in consequence and i can get it for cheap.

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This is true I have been listening a lot to what some players on the team and some people i know that have juiced in the past have said. I have heard a lot of good things about sustanon and a lot of bad things about dbol, anabol and winny etc. I have also been researching sustanon and it's mixture with anavar it seems to be low in consequence and i can get it for cheap.
not the best reasons to choose those compounds, you're missing the point.

are you going to go pro? be honest with yourself. what are you studying? what does your future hold?

you don't need AAS yet, and what you're considering is not the best options for your goals.
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not the best reasons to choose those compounds, you're missing the point.

are you going to go pro? be honest with yourself. what are you studying? what does your future hold?

you don't need AAS yet, and what you're considering is not the best options for your goals.
I have been hearing a lot of talk about going pro from my coaches at teammates i am not giving you BS on that. I am just getting by in school as I have just finished my first year but as for a major I have not decided. I am not that amazing of a student and i just managed to just get by. I made starting last year (I was the youngest on the team to do so) and i have gotten really into body building over the last 8 or 9 months. Lifting and football have kind of become my life for the most part...i love it. I don't know what my future holds for me though. I can hold my own on the field right now in this league but yes I do want to go pro and I do want the benefits of performance enhancers on and off the field. I have been talking to my contact he has been doing roids since he was in his 20's and he is 24 now. He recommended sustanon and anavar to me. I was talking to him yesterday and he says he is going to go on them with me next offseason which is three months away. I regret to inform you of this bro because I understand it is very dangerous at 19. I have talked to my doctor and have taken a physical I have average blood pressure and everything though. Anabolic androgenic steroids will help me improve dramatically. I guess you can say physical improvement is my main obsession and goal.
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I have been hearing a lot of talk about going pro from my coaches at teammates i am not giving you BS on that. I am just getting by in school as I have just finished my first year but as for a major I have not decided. I am not that amazing of a student and i just managed to just get by. I made starting last year (I was the youngest on the team to do so) and i have gotten really into body building over the last 8 or 9 months. Lifting and football have kind of become my life for the most part...i love it. I don't know what my future holds for me though. I can hold my own on the field right now in this league but yes I do want to go pro and I do want the benefits of performance enhancers on and off the field. I have been talking to my contact he has been doing roids since he was in his 20's and he is 24 now. He recommended sustanon and anavar to me. I was talking to him yesterday and he says he is going to go on them with me next offseason which is three months away. I regret to inform you of this bro because I understand it is very dangerous at 19. I have talked to my doctor and have taken a physical I have average blood pressure and everything though. Anabolic androgenic steroids will help me improve dramatically. I guess you can say physical improvement is my main obsession and goal.

You missed another point. When I say do your bloodwork, we mean you have to do some specific labs. Read in TRT section if you have to. You want to know your testosterone, free test, estrogen, estriadol, sbgh, etc. These are important to benchmark so that you will know how normally things return afterwards. I still say diet, and eat your ass off. It wont be too long after you are through with ball that keeping your weight below 400 will be a trick. You can just look at food and get fat after age 25. YOU HAVE TO GET THE BLOODWORK!!! you are messing with your body. I find it interesting that so many people are so "perfect" or detail oriented in their hobbies and passions, yet they are afraid to look at , or take care of themselves.. Any doc will doe the test tests. You may have to mail saliva off to a lab to get the others. You need them. Dont be afraid to ask someone around here where to get testing done if you dont know...
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