Advice for 5th cycle

[Brian]

Hey guys I just finished my fourth cycle and wanted to go ahead and brainstorm for my fifth cycle. Here is what I did on my first four cycles-

1st- Sust 250 twice a week
2nd- Sust 250 twice a week plus Deca 300 twice a week
3rd- Sust 250 twice a week plus Deca 300 twice a week plus D-bol 3 times a day
4th- Sust 250 twice a week

(basically what Phreezer suggested)

With proper anti-estrogen and PCT, of course

The fourth being less intense because I was feeling my heart POUNDING on the 2nd and 3rd cycle and getting really angry...wanted to go easy...

Anyway, I was really interested in doing a "Cutting" cycle just to rip up the muscle gains I have made. What do you guys suggest? Or should I stick with the bulking since I am a hard gainer? If so, I'd like to try something new because I absolutely hate Deca...though I love Sust.

You guys helped me out when I started here ay 6'3" 190 and now I'm levelled out at 6'3" 230...so help me rip it up more or get bigger I feel like I've plateaued....THANKS!!

[Bigkarch]

are you only doing a 4 week cycle?

[Brian]

Hey Bigkarch, I remember you from my first cycle post. What's up. My first four cycles were between 8-10 weeks, but those were bulking. I honestly do not know much about cutting cycles, is 4 the norm? Let me know what you suggest; I know you know your shit.

[TestFreak]

Originally Posted by Brian

Hey Bigkarch, I remember you from my first cycle post. What's up. My first four cycles were between 8-10 weeks, but those were bulking. I honestly do not know much about cutting cycles, is 4 the norm? Let me know what you suggest; I know you know your shit.

no bro big thought by your first post

Originally Posted by Brian

1st- Sust 250 twice a week
2nd- Sust 250 twice a week plus Deca 300 twice a week
3rd- Sust 250 twice a week plus Deca 300 twice a week plus D-bol 3 times a day
4th- Sust 250 twice a week

that that was your cycle and that the 1-4 were the weeks of how long you were running the cycles atleast thats what im assuming.....and no four is not the norm cutters are usually 8-10-12 weeks depends on what exactly you are running if you need more info please let me know

[Brian]

LOL oops

Sorry 1-4 was to refer to 1st cycle, 2nd cycle, etc....sorry for the lack of clarification.

Anyway my goal for cutting is not to look gross or too shredded but to just add some killer definition to this lean mass that I have gained. I want something along the same intensity of the stuff I have been taking (like Sustanon) and nothing too extreme/hardcore. More beginner/intermediate type stuff. What do you think? Thanks for the help and lol I would never waste my time with a four week cycle lol

[Bigkarch]

lol...ok...i get it...cutting is actually going to be based on your diet and training..aas is secondary..if we are talking true cutters.that means you have the body or base to cut...meaning you already have the muscle gained....if that is so...i like using a fast acting esthers for about 8 weeks..not much more...given that..i like test prop with var, or test prop with tren a and maybe even with some masterone a....deacon has had good results cutting with masteron and can probably give you more insight...

[Brian]

yes aas is secondary, I definitely agree. I have a very muscular physique...I don't technically need to cut meaning I am already "Cut" this is just in my never ending quest for that elusive perfect bod, if you get my drift. My diet and training are ace, although I'm sure I might have to mix one or both up for cutting, no?

Can you do a cutting cycle with Sustanon and tren?

[Mr. Shoulders]

Sus needs to be run eod

[Deacon]

Originally Posted by Brian

yes aas is secondary, I definitely agree. I have a very muscular physique...I don't technically need to cut meaning I am already "Cut" this is just in my never ending quest for that elusive perfect bod, if you get my drift. My diet and training are ace, although I'm sure I might have to mix one or both up for cutting, no?

Can you do a cutting cycle with Sustanon and tren?

yes you can and better yet if you add Masteron in the end - like this;


test 12 weeks
tren 10 weeks
Maseteron weeks 6-12

that will cut you right up but if you are using sus be sure to get tren e and not tren a

[bigbench]

Originally Posted by Deacon

yes you can and better yet if you add Masteron in the end - like this;


test 12 weeks
tren 10 weeks
Maseteron weeks 6-12

that will cut you right up but if you are using sus be sure to get tren e and not tren a

couldnt of said it better myself!

[SFINX]

Originally Posted by Deacon

yes you can and better yet if you add Masteron in the end - like this;


test 12 weeks
tren 10 weeks
Maseteron weeks 6-12

that will cut you right up but if you are using sus be sure to get tren e and not tren a

Why tren e instead of tren a when using sus?