advice on my cycle

[jouhan111]

am planing a test propionate cycle 100mg EOD with stanozolol tabs 50mg ED for 6 weeks,i have on hand Evista so am planing to use it during the cycle in low doses as 50mg ED and during the cycle also am planing to do in weeks 3 4 5 , two injections of 300iu HCG each week.
so my question is since i cant get neither nolva nor clomid and i know that evista in those doses can only raise by 20% my testosterone level so am thinking for PCT to take like 200mg of Evista ed for 3 weeks or so ... will the hight dose of Evista be as good as the 20mg of nolva ? any advice or suggestion on the whole cycle ? does it look good ? anyone has experiance with Evista ....

[Hitman25]

Hey just looked over your cycle looks pretty solid man just you might wanna try and grip some nolva if possible or some adex really helps incase gyno begins to set in but on a shorter cycle like this I dont think you should worry to much man.
But looks good man good luck

[Hitman25]

Fuck nevermind that man just read up on Evista didnt know it was an anit E product you should be all good then man

[jasthace]

Sorry I dont know anything about Evista
How many cycles have you done in the past?
Its a pretty light cycle for a six weeker only 350mg of test weekly.
I would go 100mg test prop ED and up the winny to 90mg {30mg 3 x daily}

[jouhan111]

thx guys for ur replies, thats my first cycle and am not looking to get huge or anything , i have been lifting weights for a while now and i just want to get more ripped,lean and max add 4 kg not more.... after i reasearched and its been a while am working on the cycle i found that i can get that with the combination prop winstrol offcourse with a good diet....and i also found that for a first cycle i shouldnt be doing high doses i think u agree on that jasthace??my big concern is about then antiE and my PCT since i read that evista is not as strong as clomid and nlova so am worried about loosing gains if my PCT wasnt good hope someone could help me with that ....

[jasthace]

Originally Posted by jouhan111

i also found that for a first cycle i shouldn't be doing high doses i think u agree on that jasthace??

Yes I agree,You should probably see some reasonable gains,but it may be a bit of a tease.

my big concern is about then antiE and my PCT since i read that evista is not as strong as clomid and nlova so am worried about loosing gains if my PCT wasn't good hope someone could help me with that ....

A regular user would not need to run an anti E during cycle with such doses.You'd have to be unfortunate to require an anti at that dosage.The Winstol should help to inhibit estrogen slightly.It is a good idea to always have nolvadex on hand in case you have issues.
PCT is a case of take the drugs and hope for the best.
HCG is very popular for testicular function,and most users of it are taking it though the cycle to keep the testis from shutting down.Then going onto their nolva and clomid therapy,post cycle.

[jouhan111]

thx man for the info , but dont u think since i dont have nolva for PCT and i have a weeker alternative Evista it would be better to start taking it a few days before HCG injections durinf the cycle so that way i keep estrogen controled since its gonna rise a bit after the injecting HCG. On the other hand when the cycle is over estrogen is already low the nuts are still alive so i just take Evista in a higher dose to help my nuts to totaly recover, as u mentioned its a light cycle so propably this will work insted of the usual nolva/clomid pct .....

[jouhan111]

Bump...

[jasthace]

Originally Posted by jouhan111

it would be better to start taking it a few days before HCG injections durinf the cycle so that way i keep estrogen controled since its gonna rise a bit after the injecting HCG.

Yes you could start taking a few days prior to hcg.

On the other hand when the cycle is over estrogen is already low the nuts are still alive so i just take Evista in a higher dose to help my nuts to totaly recover,

I Idea of the Evista or other SERMS is not to help your "nuts recover"
What happens when using exogenous Testosterone{and other AAS},is the body detects a high level of hormone in circulation, so stops producing it ,via the regulation of its control hormone, Luteinizing hormone {LH}, produced in the pituitary gland.{this pituitary function is the recovery concern PCT}
A few weeks or so after LH production has shut down the testis detecting no Luteinizing hormone in sometime also shut down.
The roll of HCG, is that of Luteinizing hormone {very similar in structure},the testis recognize the HCG as LH and resume online production status.
This does not address the main issue of the pituitary being shut down,this is where the SERMs comes into play.By blocking the estrogen receptor at the pituitary, which indicates to the pituitary adequate supply of testosterone via aromatisation {apparently}.This also only works if there in fact is lack of testosterone in circulation.
Thats is the laymans version


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[jouhan111]

thx man that was really helpfull i really apreciat it , i was googling Evista and couldnt find much info other then its a weeker serm then nolva and clomid ... but with raloxifen in search i found all the info i needed , way of use and dosage and all that ... i really appreciate it ... am good to go then i'll be posting the updates and the results at the end ... thaks again