advise please

[curry4810]

I am about to start my first cycle I have enanthate 250 and deca 300. all 10ml bottles.. I have plenty for starters. I would like to stack them is this ok.. I believe it is. However I do not know how much should i take, orhow many times a week. i am about stupid when it comes to ml, mg and cc's. I know my needles are in cc's. so can you help a poor sap. Thanx

[vegas]

Hey Curry....you have come to the right place for answers as there are many bro's with much knowledge concerning all aspects of training and nutrition. What we need to know to better help you are your stats. Age, height, weight, length of time you have been training. What your goals are and also your knowledge of bloodwork and recovery. AAS usage alone without knowledge, planning and proper nutrition will result in wasted money with possible long term physical side effects. Stick around, ask and learn. Peace......Vegas

[curry4810]

first off thanx. I am 28 5"11 about 215. used to hit the gym all the time. i have taken 5 months off and went to shit. Before time off I ate great and stayed at 190-200. Strong and healthy. Not ripped but in good shape. I now have put on about 20 very unwanted pounds. That will go away I know. I am interested in speeding up the strength and muscle process. I listed deca 300 and test 250 because that is what i have available to me.. Like i said i eat healthy now lots of protein. Just dont know how much and how often. If you need more from me let me know thanx
also need to ask what size syringe to use I have several now that are fine but all they say is 3mm. I know where to get more just dont know what size is good. and one last thing is it ok to shoot in the upper arm round part of upper arm. Or should i stay with the ass.

[zman12]

First off if I was you I would start out with a low dose and work up from there you could start with something like a six week cycle in which you would start with 250 mg. of the test and 300 mg. of the deca for the first week that would be 1 cc. of each. Then you could take 2 cc. of each for the next 4 wekks or you could just go with a light 10 week cycle were you would take 1 cc. of each a week for 10 weeks. I started off slow my first cycle and like you I always try to eat pretty clean so I don't put on any unwanted body fat it is easy to do when on a cycle. You should really make great gains with it being your first cycle I know I did.

zman12

For your first cycle and weight, I would suggest 500 mg of Test and about 250 mg of Deca per week. These are easy to measure and the dosage is sufficient for a newbie.

It's good to see that you have the basic understanding that you must eat properly. Make sure you get at least 300 g of protein and shoot for 400 g or more of carbs if you are trying to bulk.

Good luck dude!
K-

Originally Posted by curry4810

I am about to start my first cycle I have enanthate 250 and deca 300. all 10ml bottles.. I have plenty for starters. I would like to stack them is this ok.. I believe it is. However I do not know how much should i take, orhow many times a week. i am about stupid when it comes to ml, mg and cc's. I know my needles are in cc's. so can you help a poor sap. Thanx

[vegas]

Hey Curry.....I was expecting Joe S. to chime in on this but I will go ahead and say that given your current physical condition with the extra bodyfat I would strongly suggest that you go ahead and hit the gym hard for at least 8 weeks and get your diet/nutritional plan where you want it. I know it is very tempting especially this time of year to go ahead and hit the AAS but if you train and eat properly for the next 8 weeks yout body will be closer to its natural plateau thus maximizing the effects when you do decide to suppliment. Don't forget in the next 8 weeks to learn everything you can about recovery. Good luck with your training......Vegas

[Deacon]

shoot them together twice a week - run the test at 500 mgs per week and the deca at 300-400 - run that for 10 weeks


to run them any shorter would be a waste - it takes deca 5 weeks to kick in.

[Deacon]

I changed that - forgot it was a first cycle - run test at 500 mgs per week for 10 weeks alone

run the test and deca stacked for your second cycle