After much learned, he goes this newbie cycle again. What do you think?

[freezingsebastian]

Hey guys well after much research done, after my 1 post here about my 1 cycle I have learned quite a bit and I'm still learning. I'm so grateful I found this site and others, because I really did not know what I was going to be doing.

Well, I finally put my cycle together and would like to know what you guys think. And any insight on tuicking this cycle would be much appreciated.

Here we go example 1:

Week 1 250 mg of sustanon and 100 mg of deca
Week 2 500 mg of sustanon and 200 mg of deca
Week 3-5 500 mg of sustanon and 300 mg of deca
Week 6-7 500 mg of sustanon and 200 mg of deca and 10 mg of nolvadex ED
Week 8 250 mg of sustanon and 100 mg of deca and 10 mg of nolvadex ED

And for post cycle run HCG at 1000ui the first day after the last shot and 500 for 7 more days and 10 mg of novadex until the last shoot of HCG. After this I would start clomid at 100 mg the first day and tamper down for 2 weeks.

Or example 2

Week 1-6 500 mg of sustanon and 300 mg of deca
Week 7-8 500 mg of sustanon and 10 mg of nolvadex ED

PCT-And for post cycle run HCG at 1000ui the first day after the last shot and 500 for 7 more days and 10 mg of novadex until the last shoot of HCG. After this I would start clomid at 100 mg the first day and tamper down for 2-3 weeks at 50 mg ED.

Please be kind if I still need to research some more let me know, but I think for a newbie that really has no experience for this are good cycle put together, and hey is better that what I was going to do in the 1 place, which was just to take DECA. Plus I already have all my gear here with me safe and sound, waiting to be used.

[dennis]

Originally Posted by freezingsebastian

Hey guys well after much research done, after my 1 post here about my 1 cycle I have learned quite a bit and I'm still learning. I'm so grateful I found this site and others, because I really did not know what I was going to be doing.

Well, I finally put my cycle together and would like to know what you guys think. And any insight on tuicking this cycle would be much appreciated.

Here we go example 1:

Week 1 250 mg of sustanon and 100 mg of deca
Week 2 500 mg of sustanon and 200 mg of deca
Week 3-5 500 mg of sustanon and 300 mg of deca
Week 6-7 500 mg of sustanon and 200 mg of deca and 10 mg of nolvadex ED
Week 8 250 mg of sustanon and 100 mg of deca and 10 mg of nolvadex ED

And for post cycle run HCG at 1000ui the first day after the last shot and 500 for 7 more days and 10 mg of novadex until the last shoot of HCG. After this I would start clomid at 100 mg the first day and tamper down for 2 weeks.

Or example 2

Week 1-6 500 mg of sustanon and 300 mg of deca
Week 7-8 500 mg of sustanon and 10 mg of nolvadex ED

PCT-And for post cycle run HCG at 1000ui the first day after the last shot and 500 for 7 more days and 10 mg of novadex until the last shoot of HCG. After this I would start clomid at 100 mg the first day and tamper down for 2-3 weeks at 50 mg ED.

Please be kind if I still need to research some more let me know, but I think for a newbie that really has no experience for this are good cycle put together, and hey is better that what I was going to do in the 1 place, which was just to take DECA. Plus I already have all my gear here with me safe and sound, waiting to be used.

put example 1 in the can dude..no good.
example 2 is closer to being usefull. I would do weeks 1-8 sust @ 500 mgs ew/ weeks 1-7 400 mgs deca ew.
I would run hcg as maintenance dose weeks 3-10 @ 500-750 ius ew.you could up the hcg dose and regularity acording to what is needed during weeks 8-10.
Do not take the nolva during unless you have to. I would also use nolva 12-14 days after last shot instead of clomid for at least 4 weeks and maybe 5-6 depending on where you are in recovery.tapering 20/20/20/10....I think if it were me i would go 10 weeks sust @ 500 and 9 weeks of the deca @ 400 just my 2 cents bro

[freezingsebastian]

I could run Sustanon for longer but I'm trying to keep my 1 cycle to Eight weeks of the gear. But then again I know many of you guy recomend a cycle of 10 to 12 weeks. What is so wrong about haveing an eight week cycle.

Once again I have anought gear to add 2 more weeks if nesesary. Hey I value the words of the wise and anyone whos done this before has the right to their opinion.

Here is more info in case you need to know to have an idea of me.

My goal to bulk up and have a more muclar phisic. I'm 5"8 or 5"9. When I started my training again my wieght was 180. I have gone down to 165, but this due to the fact that I eliminated all fast food and junk shit from my diet. I only eat lean and have a good diet in place. Even though I still need to learn to eat more. But still get my protien needs for my wieght.

I do have the body type for bulking , that is the X shape body type, meaning Broad shoulders small waist and big legs. Wich I understand is like having some good genes.

My metabolism is not fast at all and I dont look skinny, I give the look like if I was bulked with muscle, but is just becuase of my bone structure.

[freezingsebastian]

Is all good, thats how we all learn... thanx

[dennis]

Nothing wrong with short cycles..there has been plenty of discussion about that lately...You are going to have to learn to eat more..how many cals are you consuming now ?

[freezingsebastian]

close to 3000, but that with a help of a wieght gainer protien. Yeah I can admit is dificult to eat as much as you need to for this, but I have not started my cycle yet so I have time to have that in place.

One of my biggest obstacle will have to be, is that I'm traveling on a weekly basis, in other words the challenge here is packing all my food for my trips. Still figuring that out, I kid you not, Every week of the month I have to fly to difrent places on bussines, sopaking food is a challenge, finding a good gym is a challenge...... But hey nothing is imposible.


In case someone askes I'm 27y/o and last time I checked my test level, with out doing a cycle ever, just taking over the counter shit from G*C, is a mare 415

[Ramstein II]

I'm not sure others do this, but I ended my Nandrolone well in advance of ending my Test. I think ending the Nandro at least 3 weeks before ending the Test will allow most of it to taper out of your system. Nandro is EXTREMELY suppresive of the HPTA (I'll never use it again). You don't want any floating around while you're recovering. Maybe just run Nandro for 4-5 weeks. Just a thought. Your PCT is different from many others, but I'm sure someone will post to help you with that.

[ForemanRules]

Originally Posted by freezingsebastian

I'm 27 at 5"8 175 .

You do not seem ready at all for a cycle, you are too small ansd can gain quite a bit more naturally still and you also have no grasp of how to use steroids yet. I recomend you read up and also post any quastions you have.....It would also to be great to see you post in the training and diet sections.

[freezingsebastian]

For.. thnx for the advise.

But just to tell you at 180 I'm consider over wieght. at 190 I'm fat.
So what would be the ideal wieght to sart this, and I wonder if you saw my test levels at regular no gear in the body ever 415. For someone my age 415 is way under normal. I was even consider for HRT. SO.. what to do, I think I do great training wise, to have test at such a wimp level.

[swelty]

Originally Posted by freezingsebastian

For.. thnx for the advise.

But just to tell you at 180 I'm consider over wieght. at 190 I'm fat.
So what would be the ideal wieght to sart this, and I wonder if you saw my test levels at regular no gear in the body ever 415. For someone my age 415 is way under normal. I was even consider for HRT. SO.. what to do, I think I do great training wise, to have test at such a wimp level.

bro just go with your test for 10 week at 500mgs followed up by pct. you will put on a good 15lbs if you eat right. i would save the deca for later on down the road. as far as pct i keep it simple with nolva and clomid it works well for me.

[GeaR_and_SauCe]

Don't let anyone tell you that your not ready. My first cycle I went from a bit less than 130lbs to 185+ in about 8 weeks. Anyone who tells me I wasn't ready or I didn't know what I was doing can blow me because I probably did better than them on their first cycle (Yes around 50lbs is a major difference, especially when you only weigh 130).

With that being said, my first cycle looked exactly like this:

250mg Test Enanthate By ICN Galenika /week for ten weeks
200mg Organon Deca Durabolin, yellow tops /week for nine
25mg Naposim DBOL/day for the first 4 weeks

HCG and CLOMID for post cycle recovery after half lives were cleared.

That simple cycle blew me up like a blow fish and accomplished more then I could have ever hoped for.

Since you are a bit bigger than I was, and because I think I know a bit better now after 5 or so years, I would reccomend you do the following cycle:

500mgs test enanthate week for ten weeks
300mgs deca week for 9 weeks
30mgs dbol/day for first 4 weeks

Actually, I hate deca. Its very difficult to recover from and can leave you with the hormone balance of a 12 year old girl. It increases my progesterone levels enough for me to feel like I've gone through chemical castration. I would actually reccomend 500mgs/ enanthate, just 150mg. deca, and 25 mgs dbol.

If not the deca then I would suggest 300mgs/week of equipoise.

Good luck

[ForemanRules]

Originally Posted by GeaR_and_SauCe

Don't let anyone tell you that your not ready. My first cycle I went from a bit less than 130lbs to 185+ in about 8 weeks. Anyone who tells me I wasn't ready or I didn't know what I was doing can blow me because I probably did better than them on their first cycle (Yes around 50lbs is a major difference, especially when you only weigh 130).

Please keep your BS spam off this site son.