Alternatives to Tren, or other lean gain AAS?

[LifeSize]

Tren is wonderful, want to try something else though.. I don't mind if the gains aren't as lean as the Tren, but I don't want to be a blimp (test/deca/dbol).. Suggestions? EQ doesn't seem so effective, Deca i'm worried about bloat?

[prodigy06]

maybe masteron?

[Sensational]

Methyltrienolone.

[Fraggle]

Lifesize,

1) Primo
2) Anavar
3) Winny
4) EQ

Those are your best bets for lean mass gains. Primo and anavar are very expensive and winny can be hard on the joints so I opt for EQ but I'm sure you'll find members who swear by the other compounds and have plenty of experience to share.

Fraggle

[LifeSize]

Originally Posted by prodigy06

maybe masteron?

I'm not really that lean..

I was thinking of Primo, need to talk to my hypothetical friend and see if it's available/legit.

What do you think about Deca?

[Sensational]

Originally Posted by LifeSize

I'm not really that lean..

I was thinking of Primo, need to talk to my hypothetical friend and see if it's available/legit.

What do you think about Deca?

I like NPP more than deca.

[LifeSize]

Originally Posted by Fraggle

Lifesize,

1) Primo
2) Anavar
3) Winny
4) EQ

Those are your best bets for lean mass gains. Primo and anavar are very expensive and winny can be hard on the joints so I opt for EQ but I'm sure you'll find members who swear by the other compounds and have plenty of experience to share.

Fraggle

Damn! everyone joined in right when I posted..

Yea Frag, Primo is what im thinking of most right now.. thing is I wonder how legit my source will be. Whatever, I have someone in RL to talk to about that so im not that worried.. EQ huh? I hear mixed thoughts on EQ..

Anyone here ran it with Test alone? What kind of gains?

Thanks guys..

Sensational, you crazy bastard.. MT1 not for me.. at least I dont think.. hehe

[LifeSize]

NPP! thats the fast ester Deca right??

Does that go by another name, or do people know it as "npp"? heh..

[Fraggle]

Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate is the long-hand for NPP. Quicker acting and less bloat.

What are the negatives you want to avoid with respect to EQ? Some people dislike the appetite increase... other's the long duration of action and onset. And still others the potential for anxiety. If you can find boldenone without an ester you can get similar effects to NPP in terms of rapid onset.

Primo is great. Minimal side effects even at high doses. But the cost is outrageous. Particularly if you push the dose up to ~600-800mg/week.

Fraggle

[Sensational]

Originally Posted by Fraggle

Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate is the long-hand for NPP. Quicker acting and less bloat.

What are the negatives you want to avoid with respect to EQ? Some people dislike the appetite increase... other's the long duration of action and onset. And still others the potential for anxiety. If you can find boldenone without an ester you can get similar effects to NPP in terms of rapid onset.

Primo is great. Minimal side effects even at high doses. But the cost is outrageous. Particularly if you push the dose up to ~600-800mg/week.

Fraggle

If I had a lot of disposable income, I would always take preeeeemmmmoooo.

[bobvongule]

Hey LifeSize you have seen my pics. I am not exactly lean either and have been using 200mg EQ eod with prop eod for 9 weeks now. I have been doing cario about 6 hours a week and my diet is at 90%. I went from 255 to 244 in 4 weeks and I swear it was all fat. The EQ is making me veiny as shit when I am training. My BF is around 15% now and veins are running up my obliques. My muscle hardness is better now than ever. My waist is at 35 and I feel great. I do get hungy often so quality of food is tough to control. If you run EQ do it for 16 plus weeks. Works great with prop or tren.

I have used NPP and I liked it better than deca. Fast acting and little bloat.

[jasthace]

Originally Posted by Sensational

Methyltrienolone.

Sensational I've got a 20ml of this I'm going to run with some test/clen & t3 in 2-3 weeks.
Are you familiar with running it.
Recommendations?

[Sensational]

Originally Posted by jasthace

Sensational I've got a 20ml of this I'm going to run with some test/clen & t3 in 2-3 weeks.
Are you familiar with running it.
Recommendations?

What is the concentration? I presume based on the volume you have that it is 10mg/ml. I would start at 5mg/day. It binds unbelievably well to the AR, produces more dramatic results than tren imo, but will give the same type of sides. I got extreme lethargy at 10mg/day.

Results for me were great, strength was way up and lean gains while appearing to drop bf.

[ULTIMATE WARRIOR]

hi bro!
primobolan dep + anavar are great!
.....but if you wanny try something pretty similar but less expencive try :

deca + winny + nolvadex

the deca could give a little of water ritention but the nolvadex will contrast this effect and also it will boost your own testo ( that will go down with the deca and winny....

from my experience very cheap but really good lean cycle

[jasthace]

Originally Posted by Sensational

What is the concentration? I presume based on the volume you have that it is 10mg/ml. I would start at 5mg/day. It binds unbelievably well to the AR, produces more dramatic results than tren imo, but will give the same type of sides. I got extreme lethargy at 10mg/day.

Results for me were great, strength was way up and lean gains while appearing to drop bf.

Yes it's 10mg/ml.
Tren A hit me hard as far as lethargy goes and sweats.{@100mg EOD}
So I'd better run this at 5mg
Thanks for the advice,I'll run it at 5mg for three weeks, 4 weeks max.