Androgel for antidepressant!!!

[Sting9]

sorry for my bad english.

i'm 29

I have try about all antidepressant, paxil (bad for sex), celexa(bad for sex), serzone(very good but stop to be in sale in canada), remeron (very bad), and so on...

I have read a lot of good study about the effect of androgel on depress mans. I print those studys and bring them to my med.

He agreed to prescribe me some androgel 5g. (yes!)

Here my big point:
Before he prescribe me the gel, i have pass a testosterone test. On a nomal scale of 2 to 12, he tell me i was on 5. So i was not in the low zone.

Question 1: On the same scale what kind of result will i get from 5g a day of androgel? (and i plan to get the 10g one or the Testim gel)

Question 2: I know this may stop my natural test production. And he does'nt seem to care about it, or event know about it?

Question 3: My plan is to take 5g a day during the 4 first day of the week, and 10 g during the weekend for my training days (and sex days...) whit maybe some dianabol 10-15 g/day (during summer)
whit this plan, at the end of the month it will last 8-9 days whitout any stuff.
I plan to restart my nuts whit a massive dose of good Tribulus 3g/day (i really react well to it), some horny goat weed and some vitex.

I rally want to use my androgel at is best (whit low dose of gear maybe for summer time)
But i really want to keep my nuts happy to... (my med. seem to know nothing about this stuff)

-During those 8-9 restart days: clomid or nolvadex may be beter?
-During adrogel, low dose of dianabol or 250 sustanon/week+????+(vitex or nolvadex whit it?)
-Take a visit to a (endo) to speak of this nuts issue or maybe not, cause he may want me to stop androgel?

I know it make a lot of questions.
But get Androgel at 29 whit a near normal testosterone level is a great issue...no?

thanks!

[demeurj]

Here's the rub . . . you likely have low normal testosterone levels (assuming that 2-12 scale is continuous but I've never heard of such a scale). Increasing your testosterone may have NO effect on your depression or may make it worse!

Although SSRIs (paxil, zoloft, celexa, prozac) are safe and effective antidepressants they do not work for everyone. Serzone is not an SSRI but it was taken off the market due to a lethal liver toxicity issue. I believe it's black box in America so you could always try to get in mail order or cross the border yourself. In addition, their are other drugs (Wellbutrim, Effexor) for depression including older agents like TCAs (amitriptyline) that work quite well.

Take home is to treat the depression appropriately and worry about your testosterone levels later.

[DansteelMan]

I have used amitriptyline, and can say, its very very powerful and makes you feel like shit...Its a very sedating drug and should only be taken at night...I got prescibed them for migraine headaches..I could only take them b4 so long b4 i said fuck it...try the zyban (wellbutrin) i have heard good things, it does fuck up the way you think though...heard of a guy forgetting how to do his job, but then it came back to him (my uncle)

[demeurj]

Originally Posted by DansteelMan

I have used amitriptyline, and can say, its very very powerful and makes you feel like shit...Its a very sedating drug and should only be taken at night...I got prescibed them for migraine headaches..I could only take them b4 so long b4 i said fuck it...try the zyban (wellbutrin) i have heard good things, it does fuck up the way you think though...heard of a guy forgetting how to do his job, but then it came back to him (my uncle)

It is true the amitriptyline (and the other TCAs) require more attention to dosing and side effects than SSRIs. I actually forgot trazodone (Nefazadone) which is a generic antidepressant. It works quite well except for the fact that effective doses tend to be quite sedating . . . oh and there's a slight issue with priapism.

Zyban is for smoking cessation. Wellbutrim is the antidepressant (but it's the same drug; bupropion). Some believe Wellbutrim starts working faster than other antidepressants. It's also been used to treat ADD in adults. And is generally considered to have fewer sexual side effects . . . granted some guys probably consider delayed ejaculation as helpful.

[ironcowboy]

Sting9-

I've never heard of that particular scale but it doesn't sound like your testosterone is low enough to really cause depression. However, if you did increase your test some, your mood may improve a bit. You'd have to give it a try. Androgel is likely to cause your internal test production to stop and your testicles to shrink as a result but I don't think it happens to everyone. 5grams is really a pretty low dose and you should consider up to 10 grams/day.

[jocko]

wellbutrin thats your answer spelling may be off