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Old 12-11-2003, 03:12 PM
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Part 1:Cycles.

Along with where to get them, what's real and what's not, why take them, etc. - how to properly construct a good cycle is one of the more daunting tasks a new gear user will face. This Faq has been designed to help the new user figure out what to take, how much to take, and how long to take it. The first thing you should know is what basic kinds of cycles are out there. There are 4 main ones: The Bulker, the Cutter, The Strength, and the Bridge. So what is right for you? Well, that one is easy, what are your goals? If you're looking for fat-loss, a small cutter will do the trick. Competing? You need a more extreme one. Looking to put on some serious size? A heavy bulker is what the doctor ordered. How about insane strength? I've got your ticket. Below you will find some sample cycles for each of these needs as well as info to help you steer clear of common mistakes that can render a perfect cycle into a huge mistake.

In future posts over the next few days I will post on bulking cycles, cutting cycles, strength cycles, bridges, anti-estrogens and ball starters, insulin, front-loading, more frequent injections, and anything else you guys want.

All input is greatly appreciated, especially from you fellow mods and vets.

Couple points.

#1 I left out G.H and slin. Why? these drugs can be problematic for several reasons, price, health risks involved, so their usage should be on a case-by-case basis. (They will be handled in an upcoming post.)

#2 Ask questions. Anything you don't understand, ask away!

#3 Diet is key. Never forget that. Period.

#4 Your health is the most important thing to you, don't jeaporadise it, and dont do something stupid.

#5 Keep cycles as simple as you can, more juice doesn't equate to more muscle. More food, more sleep, more intense training on the other hand does.

#6 Make sure you buy all your gear and pins (and anti-estrogens) prior to beginning your cycle. Always remember life is nothing if not unpredictable, you never know what can happen.

#7 Use drugs properly! IN my next FAQ I will discuss the diferent drugs and how to use them, for now just make sure you don't use deca in a cutter, primo in a bulker etc.

#8 You should have some blood work done prior to your first cycle and then every 4 months or so after that. This is the only reliable way to see if there are any problems you might not be aware of before you put these drugs into your body. If you can't see a doctor for whatever reason you can purchase some of these tests from the Anabolic Fitness store. Go to it at www.anabolicfitness.net
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Old 12-11-2003, 03:13 PM
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Bulking Cycles

The BULKER!!!

I put this one first because it happens to be my favorite. For some reason nothing is better to me than to be huge and massive and strong as hell. So what kind of bulker is right for you? Well to start you need to asses yourself. Weight, age, training experience, gear experience are all points to be addressed. From there you should have a good understanding of where you stand. So now you need to figure out where you want to go. Once that is figured out select one of the following cycles and from there post what you hope to achieve and what cycle you picked to get you there and we vets will help smooth everything else out. One thing you might notice is I use a relatively small selection of gear for my sample cycles, that is because you usually only need a couple drugs to obtain your desired results. Test, deca, dbol, and/or anadrol is really all you need for most bulkers, of course you have other options, but I like to keep things simple.

*****TheBaby Newbie bulker***** For either very small people (under 200 pounds) or users with no past AAS experience.

Week 1-8 200-300mgs Deca

Week 1-9 400-500mgs test (exact dosage depends on how your test happens to be measured, for example sustanon would give you 500, t-200 would give you 400 etc.)

Start clomid week 12 at 100mg ED, then weeks 13 and 14 do 50mg ED.

Also, you should preferably have arimidex on hand, but if not, nolvadex is fine. Use them if you start getting itchy nips. Arimidex is far better than Nolva, but they both work well to combat gyno and water retention. The clomid is better at the end of the cycle for getting the nuts going again and restoring your base test levels.

*****The Newbie Bulker*****-For the same people as above except this one is for people over 200 pounds or who have done at least 1 cycle before.

Week 1 1000 mgs of test

Week 1 600mgs deca

Week 1-6 30-50 mgs Dbol ED

Week 2-10 600-750 mgs test

Week 2-9 400mgs deca

Start clomid week 12 at 100mg ED, then weeks 13 and 14 do 50mg ED.

Also, you should preferably have arimidex on hand, but if not, nolvadex is fine. Use them if you start getting itchy nips. Arimidex is far better than Nolva, but they both work well to combat gyno and water retention. The clomid is better at the end of the cycle for getting the nuts going again and restoring your base test levels.

*****The Bulker*****. Same as above except, well you get the idea, we go on up the ladder here. (This one is for experienced users – don't take this if you are a newbie!!!!)

Week 1-2 1500 mgs test week

Week 1-2 600 mgs deca

Week 3-10 1000 mgs week test Week 3-9 400mgs deca Week 1-8 50-100mgs Anadrol/dbol ED

By the time you get to this one, you might consider using HCG in order to get the boys swinging a little sooner as well as get your body producing testosterone again. Start HCG therapy on week 12. Do around 1000iu every day for 10 days.

Start clomid at end of HCG therapy,week 13, at 100mg ED, then weeks 14, and 15, 16, do 50mg ED.

Also, you should preferably have arimidex on hand, but if not, nolvadex is fine. Use them if you start getting itchy nips. Arimidex is far better than Nolva, but they both work well to combat gyno and water retention. The clomid is better at the end of the cycle for getting the nuts going again and restoring your base test levels.
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The Cutter Cycles

Cutting is a relatively easy process of dropping calories and increasing aerobic output to push yourself into a caloric deficit and cause your body to burn fat. Problem is they really aren't easy are they? Of course not! Along with the fact that our bodies are EXTREMELY resistant to burning fat we as bodybuilders always want to keep as much muscle as possible, which is next to impossible if your calories are low enough to burn fat. So can gear help? Absolutely! Read on...

The interesting thing about cutting cycles is they are all different. Maybe you just want to lose some pounds, or maybe you want to compete. No two cutting cycles are alike. So I am going to provide some blue-prints to give you the reader some good starting points to decide what to run.

*****The Cheap-Ass Look Good For Summer Cutter*****(AnimalMass' favorite)

This cycle is fairly cheap, and more importantly is still what I consider to be one of the best cutting cycles out there for the regular bodybuilder. (If you need to make it cheaper, drop the winny and use homemade tren - but the winny def. adds to this cycle)

This is a 4 week on, 4 week off, 4 week on cycle for 12 weeks of good hard cutting.

Weeks 1-4 Superclen (work up to 1 tab per day)

Weeks 1-4 T3 (start with 1 25mcg tab per day and increase one tab every 4 days until you get to 100mcg, and then back down again. – 1111222233334444333322221111.

Weeks 1-4 Tren 75mg ED

Weeks 1-4 Winny 50-100mg ED

Run clomid post cycle weeks 5-8 at 100-50-50. HCG can also be used to get nuts going.

*****The Look Good for Summer Cutter*****(This is a Methyl Mike favorite)

Week 2-9 100mgs test prop EOD

Week 1-8 400-600mgs EQ week

Week 5-10 50-100mgs winny ED

Plus clen and T3 (run the clen and T3 the same way as the first cycle)

Start clomid on week 11

Of course you'll want some arimidex here, although gyno and water retention shouldn't really be a problem, also you can play around with your EQ dosage some peopel respond well to low doses some don't, you can use Ox instead of winny if you can afford it, run 40-80mgs ED.

*****The Get Ripped to the Bone Cutter***** (AnimalMass has never done this one either, but it looks good – Most of us will be too poor for this one.)

Week1-5 100mgs test prop EOD

Week 6-10 200mgs Prop EOD

Week 1-10 600-800mgs EQ week

Week 5-10 50-100mgs Winny ED

Week 5-10 75 mgs Tren ED

Also clen and T3. (Same as first cycle)

Start clomid/nolvadex week 13

*****Time to Compete Cutter***** (For you guys who compete – although by the time you're here, you know more than I do about cutting anyway! –lol)(This is methyl Mike's and AnimalMass isn't all too crazy about this one for several reasons).

Week1-5 100mgs test prop EOD

Week 6-11 200mgs Prop EOD

Week 1-10 800-1000mgs EQ week

Week 5-12 100mgs Winny ED

Week 5-12 150 mgs Tren ED

Week 10-12 100mgs Anadrol ED

Week 1-4, 8-12 Clen and T3

Week 2 and 8 Run 8 days on DNP @ 400mg/ day. These 2 weeks will shed fat very quickly.

Start clomid week 13

This cycle is close to the one above except you have higher doses and it includes DNP. If you're wondering why they are so similar it's because once again you really only have so many drugs to work with and they should be in all cutting cycles. The timeline is assuming your show is the saturday of week 12.
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for the bulker cycle week 1-8 200-300mgs Deca how should you seperate the shots? ED or EOD? or just once a week
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If you are just doing 300mg of deca, just split it up to twice per week shots. Deca has a very long half life, so you could shoot it all in one shot, but most likely you'll be shooting test as well twice per week, so it's usually easier to do 1-2ccs of test and 1cc of deca in a syringe twice per week.

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Bob what do you think about a "test only" cycle which is the base for all AAS for the newbie so he/she can see how there body responds
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on the summer cutter could i use sus 250 twice a week rather than prop every other day? thats a total of 500mg of sus a week thanks
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Question dbol on newbie bulking cycle

Hey bro good cycle. I have a question. I weigh 193lbs. On your bulking cycle for newbies under 200lbs could I use some dbol for 4 weeks at 35mg aday? Thanx
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OK with the usage guidelines, but Deca for the first cycle? Forget your own testosterone production for some time.

Instead of arimidex (anastrazole) try femara because it doesn´t touch IGF-1 production. Arimidex reduces IGF-1 by 15% and nolvadex much more.

Remember that every action has its reaction. Examine very well every product to use. It´s better product synergy than product quantity.





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what is "femara" and where would i get some, how would i take it???
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