Another newbie question

[woodman7]

I have surfed this forum and made myself familiar enough (I think) to finaly post my question. I am a 37 yr old Triathlete and asked a body building freind of mine what I could take to make me stronger and faster. He recomends whinny and Ana and a front loader of 1000mg of Test (one time injection)?

After reading over the forun, it seams like this wouldn't be a good mix at all. Tell me this stiff isn't going to go to waist. Both the whinny and Ana are liquid and sounds like I could take the whinny oraly. Is this true? Also, it's 13 weeks worth, but I've not seen anyone reccomend taking this stuff more than 6 weeks.

Help please!

[Zandria]

Winny comes in oil and tab form. You can also drink the oil and it is safe. Injection is the best way to take it imo. Since ana is oil based and you have to inject it, may as well load both up and shoot at once.

[udub]

Originally Posted by woodman7

I have surfed this forum and made myself familiar enough (I think) to finaly post my question. I am a 37 yr old Triathlete and asked a body building freind of mine what I could take to make me stronger and faster. He recomends whinny and Ana and a front loader of 1000mg of Test (one time injection)?

After reading over the forun, it seams like this wouldn't be a good mix at all. Tell me this stiff isn't going to go to waist. Both the whinny and Ana are liquid and sounds like I could take the whinny oraly. Is this true? Also, it's 13 weeks worth, but I've not seen anyone reccomend taking this stuff more than 6 weeks.

Help please!

I'm not sure the of the purpose of frontloading 1000mg of test once. If i'm wrong somebody will correct me i'm sure.I

[hyelifter]

There is no right or wrong answer. 1000 mgs of test may be fine for some but harmful to others. (frontloaded)
If you have never used test before, it seems smart to 'test the waters" before taking that big a plunge. It seems like a heck of a lot of test for a newbie. And, test is not some magical endurance med. It gradually builds muscle as you train. It will not make you run faster or longer the next day or week after one shot of test no matter the dosage.

[E-Dawg]

Originally Posted by woodman7

I have surfed this forum and made myself familiar enough (I think) to finaly post my question. I am a 37 yr old Triathlete and asked a body building freind of mine what I could take to make me stronger and faster. He recomends whinny and Ana and a front loader of 1000mg of Test (one time injection)?

After reading over the forun, it seams like this wouldn't be a good mix at all. Tell me this stiff isn't going to go to waist. Both the whinny and Ana are liquid and sounds like I could take the whinny oraly. Is this true? Also, it's 13 weeks worth, but I've not seen anyone reccomend taking this stuff more than 6 weeks.

Help please!

This cycle sounds kinda whack for a newbie cycle. Frontloading 1000mg test and then no more test....strange. That would do nothing for me. Don't get me wrong your friend could be right, I wouldn't waste my time and money on that cycle though.
Ana?...are we talking anadrol...or Var or what?What kind of test do you have....enanthate, prop, cyp, suspension, or a test blend? The test can cause some bloat, but there are ways to keep the bloat down. Test will make you gain a considerable amount of weight and strength, but you want to move fast, and adding 20-30lbs of weight to your frame might not make you faster IMO.
I am not sure what to tell ya. I love to lift and I use steroids to gain strength and muscle mass...OH YEAH....and I hate to run,(bikes only for me).
I would go for a light cycle of test prop(300-400mg/wk), do the winstrol for the last 6 weeks of the cycle, and stick to a nice clean diet. or maybe test prop and EQ. The EQ will give you an increase in the production of red blood cell, increased vascularity, and unfortunately an increased appetite.....not good if you wanna keep yourself lean and cut, so follow a diet. Use the EQ for 8 weeks, and test for 10 weeks....and hopefully you are not a drug tested athlete. Maybe look into some erythropoietic agents(EPO). Or how bout some good ol' training...try something different.
Hell......I still consider myself a newbie with steroids, and these are not recomendations, just my opinions. ANY STEROID USING TRIATHLETES OUT THERE? HELP?

[terrorizer2]

Why not do a shorter cycle using short ester drugs.What about a 6 week cycle of prop(150mg every other day) stacked with 40 to 50mg a day of anavar.Easier recovery as well as on a 13 week cycle you may find recovery harder.I know from experience that recovery from 8 week cycles or longer can be hard.Clomid and nolvadex for PCT and you should be fine.You can help reduce bloat by using proviron or nolvadex or a combo of both through the cycle.

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[woodman7]

Wow, I have no clue guys! As for anadrol or anavar, it's the anavar. As far as the test, I won't know exactly what I have for a few days. Kinda wishing at this point that I had done a little more homework.

As for better recovery? Can someone bring me up to speed?

I may be a little too New for this forum. My apologies as I hate to waist your time.

[E-Dawg]

Hey thats why you are here,..... to learn, and the more you know the better There are a couple stickys you should check out: Phreezers first cycle FAQ and the one on PCT (post cycle therapy). terrorizer2 suggested an excellent cycle for what you want to do, short and sweet. I tried anavar not too long ago and I really liked it, it was mild, I think you will enjoy it. like t2 suggested clomid and nolvadex for recovery from your cycle...a.k.a. PCT. Read up and play it safe bro. I read for well over a year before a needle went into my ass.
E-Dawg

[van-man]

injectible winstrol is most commonly found as a waterbased solution. Anavar is a good mild steroid that stacks well with anything, but this being your first cycle you would be much better served to just limit this first go around to ten to twelve weeks of test at four or 500mg per week.

You still need to educate yourself on the purpose of PCT, but I will tell you that 6 weeks of nolvadex at 20mg ed is the backbone of a good PCT.

You're not the only triathlete here. look up "enduranceathlete" I'm sure he will tell you the same....

[terrorizer2]

Personally i would not go down the long cycle route for your needs.As you say,your an athlete not a bodybuilder.You don't need to put on a large amount of muscle for your needs.12 week test cycles can be difficult to recover from for many people,even with good PCT.The last thing you will want to be is lethargic because your test levels are low.Also your age is a consideration.You are not a young man with test flowing like crazy.I am one year older than you and i know at the end of this cycle next month i am taking most of next year off and will have a hard time for a while.I have done it before.I would do a six weeker then PCT then see how your recovery is.

[enduranceAthlete]

Originally Posted by terrorizer2

Personally i would not go down the long cycle route for your needs.As you say,your an athlete not a bodybuilder.You don't need to put on a large amount of muscle for your needs.12 week test cycles can be difficult to recover from for many people,even with good PCT.The last thing you will want to be is lethargic because your test levels are low.Also your age is a consideration.You are not a young man with test flowing like crazy.I am one year older than you and i know at the end of this cycle next month i am taking most of next year off and will have a hard time for a while.I have done it before.I would do a six weeker then PCT then see how your recovery is.

That's a good idea. My first cycle was 10 weeks of 250mg/week of Sust250... it may have been shorter. My thinking was, cut the dosages in half and see what the sides were. As it turned out, 250mg/week of Sust or some other such long-lasting test was the norm for endurance athletes. For endurance athletes, length of time seems more important than massive dosages. It'll be rare if I ever run a 500mg/week cycles for any length of time. With body builders, breaking down and rebuilding muscle is what they're after, but for endurance athletes, that's not as big a part of the equation. When we train hard for long periods, our test levels drop, we become cabolic and our rbcs die off. Really, an over trained endurance athlete is in the same fix as a body builder coming off a cycle without pct -- they're going to be feeling about the same and suffering the same issues. Test allows you to train hard without experiencing these issues while at the same time building rbcs. For an endurance athlete, that's what it's good for.

I'd save the gear you have. Finding gear for a newbie isn't easy, especially if you're not in a gym regularly. Run a lengthy, light cycle, get your pct squared away, go all the way through both and re-access. The anavar is a favorite among endurance athletes because of the strength gains and -- someone correct me if I'm wrong -- also because it won't cause massive muscle growth, water retention and, it won't shut down your natural test production. But, dosages and length of time... I have no idea.

I will tell this. Just like body builders train completely different than endurance athletes, their aas cycles are also completely different.