Arimidex VS femmera

[focus]

BigKarch,
Thanks for the Semper Fi, I assume it was aimed at me because of the Avatar? It may have been a back-handed Semper Fi though because you followed it with the word soldier & a Marine is not a soldier that is an Army term. Marines are just called Marines unless by civilians counting troops on a battlefield or overall troop strength. Marines well we count Marines in battle or Marines in reserve & count soldies as a lower level of fighting man. No offense to you Army folks out on the Forum.

Anyway BigKarch I have found some stuff on Fluoxymesterone that shows Fluoxy may after all indirectly at high dose convert to a different androgen that has potential to raise estrogen. Quote from a post by Juice5top on Meso: "Halotestin is an oral steroid. Its fluoxymesterone substance is a precursor of methyltestosterone " BigKarch this shows you are correct & I am correct on a conclusion: Your correct the child height study is a small dose used & tells us both nothing about high dose conversion & I am correct because at low dose it won't readily convert to estrogen thus is why the steroid was used in the study. It made for fun dialog.

focus

great posts , good info, just took more notes here than i have all semester i think...

BMan

[wiredup]

so if atrophy started showing up around week 2 of a cycle, would doing 500IU of HCG for 5 days get rid of it? or how would you run it? i'm trying to get ready for a cycle and was going to have some HCG on hand in case of atrophy. i was going to do a
1-10 test e 500/w
1-4 dbol 25mg ed
.25mg adex ed
10mg nolva ed
so i'll be taking the adex and nolva ed, should this adequately cover atrophy if any?

[focus]

Originally Posted by wiredup

so if atrophy started showing up around week 2 of a cycle, would doing 500IU of HCG for 5 days get rid of it? or how would you run it? i'm trying to get ready for a cycle and was going to have some HCG on hand in case of atrophy. i was going to do a
1-10 test e 500/w
1-4 dbol 25mg ed
.25mg adex ed
10mg nolva ed
so i'll be taking the adex and nolva ed, should this adequately cover atrophy if any?

Get some EQ & run it like this:

1 wk pre cycle: Arimidex .5mg & continue for 18 more weeks (12 week cycle)
Cycle: Test at 600 mg wk 1-3
D-bol Wk 1-4. (HCG 500 i.u. week 3 x 5 days)
Test at 400 mg wk 4-10 & EQ 400mg week 4-10
Test at 600mg wk 11-12 (HCG 500 i.u.M-Fri. both wks)(Nolvadex 20MG both wks)
wk 13-14 40 mg a day Nolvadex
wk 15 20mg Nolvadex
wk 16-18 continue the Adex. .5mg M-W-F (run whole cycle)

I take the Adex pre-cycle two reasons 1) I like to be sure a stable level is in my system to prevent gyno & 2) It sends a signal for the boys to start making more test. (some will dispute this) This may delay shut down a tad when cycle is started.
at week three I take HCG because your very sensitive still to LH & it will work. Your going to lose some nut size durring the cycle the trick is to limit the durration of loss. I don't take HCG till last two weeks, I take no chances on burning out lydig cells.

Now I am sure this will stir some debate, but it works. I also don't like taking more gear than needed to do the job so I cut down to the 400 test while I start the EQ at 400. Most people run 500mg test 400 EQ I see no reason. My next cycle I will probably use Tren. & not EQ.

focus

[Starkraven]

im just going to go with proviron at 50mg ED and adex at .25mg 2-3 times per week on my test/tren cycle next. it works well against estrogen/bloat for me at that dose and im not prone to gyno.

just a quick question. if one is using test year round at 250-500mg per week, will dex at that dose affect him in a negative way?

[ramboj70]

Originally Posted by Starkraven

im just going to go with proviron at 50mg ED and adex at .25mg 2-3 times per week on my test/tren cycle next. it works well against estrogen/bloat for me at that dose and im not prone to gyno.

just a quick question. if one is using test year round at 250-500mg per week, will dex at that dose affect him in a negative way?

wow I read all of it and it took me 30min good info thanks

[focus]

Originally Posted by Starkraven

im just going to go with proviron at 50mg ED and adex at .25mg 2-3 times per week on my test/tren cycle next. it works well against estrogen/bloat for me at that dose and im not prone to gyno.

just a quick question. if one is using test year round at 250-500mg per week, will dex at that dose affect him in a negative way?

Starkraven,
I think it would be good advice to use Adex year round if your using just 3 times a week at the low dose of .5mg or .25mg because you are also taking extra tesosterone at the same time & that extra will convert to some estrogen. I am no pro-bodybuilder so I would ask others that question. (I don't use year round) I don't know Swale, but others say to ask him questions like that on the HRT forum. I think your better off using Arimidex the way you suggest & you could get a blood check done to make sure your estrogen falls in the normal range. Of coarse long term & short term very low estrogen has been shown to do harm to your system. What you are talking about is not causing "very low" estrogen just proventing extra or high estrogen also harmful.

focus

[Texas Ranger]

Arimidex

[wiredup]

Originally Posted by focus

Get some EQ & run it like this:

1 wk pre cycle: Arimidex .5mg & continue for 18 more weeks (12 week cycle)
Cycle: Test at 600 mg wk 1-3
D-bol Wk 1-4. (HCG 500 i.u. week 3 x 5 days)
Test at 400 mg wk 4-10 & EQ 400mg week 4-10
Test at 600mg wk 11-12 (HCG 500 i.u.M-Fri. both wks)(Nolvadex 20MG both wks)
wk 13-14 40 mg a day Nolvadex
wk 15 20mg Nolvadex
wk 16-18 continue the Adex. .5mg M-W-F (run whole cycle)

I take the Adex pre-cycle two reasons 1) I like to be sure a stable level is in my system to prevent gyno & 2) It sends a signal for the boys to start making more test. (some will dispute this) This may delay shut down a tad when cycle is started.
at week three I take HCG because your very sensitive still to LH & it will work. Your going to lose some nut size durring the cycle the trick is to limit the durration of loss. I don't take HCG till last two weeks, I take no chances on burning out lydig cells.

Now I am sure this will stir some debate, but it works. I also don't like taking more gear than needed to do the job so I cut down to the 400 test while I start the EQ at 400. Most people run 500mg test 400 EQ I see no reason. My next cycle I will probably use Tren. & not EQ.

focus

thanks for the reply. sorry to hijack this thread though. would you still recommend this for a first cycle though? seems kinda complicated for an idiot newbie like me! LOL