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Old 10-30-2009, 02:32 PM
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I finished a 12 week cycle (Deca) six weeks ago. I have not used in several years and wanted to put on some lean muscle. In the past couple of weeks I have started to suffer some painful atrophy. I know now after researching that I should have been prepared to take HGC and Clomid post cycle to prevent. My question is should I take HGC and clomid now as if I had just ended my cycle to get my body to restore natural testosterone function before I start another cycle or allow for my body to recover naturally? or start another another cycle then do post cycle recovery to avoid this problem in the future? Thank you in advance for your advice.
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Its always common practice to do a proper PCT following any cycle, I'm sure atrophy is not the only sympton you are experiencing. I'm sure you are you totally depressed, fatigued, bad libido? HCG, Clomid, Armidex are the goods for PCT, since you were on for 12wks you'll want to take about 12 wks or more off before your next cycle. I'm sure with your research on here, you know the reasons now on why you need to do a PCT right after a cycle and the dosages so I won't list them or get into that. Like I said I'm sure you're depressed so I'd start to feel better.
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Also because you used Deca, you may have high prolactin levels which could also affect your libido, so take B-6 at 600mg's a day divided to reduce prolactin.
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So you would recomment doing a proper PCT now even though my cycle ended over six weeks ago? Could you let me know what you would recommend for dosages and length of time I should stay on.....thank you again for you imput.
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How long would you recommend taking 600mg's of B-6?
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Hey JetOne

I'd take B-6, 2, 100mg caps 3 x a day, till my libido came back alive, then I reduced the dosage down to 300 mg's a day. It took about a week for me, then I just did a maintaience dose till I was done with my PCT. As far as in your case PM me and tell me your symptoms so I can see which would be the best way for you to go about things.
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Did you say deca only cycle?? ?? Anyway the answer is yes. You need to start a PCT right now. It is probably the best time for your situation. You should have run HCG the whole time to maintenance nut size and health. What you need to do now is get yourself some HCG and pin 2500ius on a mon and another 2500 ius Friday of the same week. If this does not bring them back then repeat in about 5 more days. Get yourself either some clomid or nolva to take for about a month. read around for dosages. Your problem is going to be worse than you are imagining. You messed with Deca and the shutdown is phenomenal. Long halflife and incredibly anabolic = long shutdown. Be prepared to do all this again in a month after you complete this PCT if it does not take. Consider this. Deca takes a good three months to clear considerably due to its half-life. It is the application of the exogenous hormone that is shutting you down. The human body released its own miniscule amount of deca while in proper stasis. Depending on how tiny this amount is, how long do you think it is going to take for your exogenous levels of deca to get below this tiny amount your body is supposed to have in it?? They say that Deca can test positive for up to a year. I am not sure if that is a test for deca its self or just some remaining metabolites. But you have to wonder just how little deca it takes to keep you shut down?? PCT will bring you on line, but if the level of deca remaining when done is too high, you will shut right back down. Just continue running clomid or Nolva every other month, untill you test and LH and FHS remain stable post PCT. BY ALL MEANS, get the HCG NOW as you can damage the boys if left dormant too long and then they may never be able to "read or write" again. You dont want that. Dont start the Nolva or clomid until you have succeeded in getting a response from the HCG. You will know it as your boys will blow up and feel like a case of blueballs. If you are not stable down 3,4,or 6 months down the road, dont sweat it. You can run a cycle of test and/or others. Just be sure to maintenance with HCG in future and have pct ready. Running a future cycle of test will not influence the rate at which your body is going to metabolise out the existing Deca. It will still be diminishing regardless. Just be sure to consider your intentions vs. results prior to choosing anabolics in the future and read more here. I dont even want to ask how you were influenced into a Deca only cycle. You may need to reconsider your sources. I am going to start an interesting thread in the near future. It will be entitled, "Restarting after a year of continuous testosterone use as well as four to five months of Deca straight. Now who's the idiot? Should make for great emotional fun!!
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JetOne,
Alas, your Deca only cycle was not the wisest thing to do but do not lose hope. This can be fixed! You are gonna need to get your hands on as much hCG as possible as well as tomaxifen. The above regiment should be a good place to start. If things are not turning out as well as you had hoped, let me know. Medicine heals all woes.
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