Average Gains for Deca?

[autarch]

I've read that Deca gives slow, quality gains but I was wondering if anyone could guestimate average mass? I know it will vary from person to person based on their body chemistry, equilibrium body mass and so forth, but I'm still curious about what sort of average gains one might get.
Assume the user is 180lbs, 15%bf, no previous anabolic steroid use. Good diet, gets 8-10 hours of sleep almost every night. Has done about a year of heavy weight training, has gained some but not a lot. 2mg/lb (360mg/week) of Deca is used in a cycle. About what would you expect the 'average' gain to be?

Second question: If 400mg/week were added to the Deca cycle, what would one expect to gain then?

I understand these questions can't be answered with arithmetic precision, but I was curious about the average gains to be expected in that sort of situation.

[Massive690]

Originally Posted by autarch

I've read that Deca gives slow, quality gains but I was wondering if anyone could guestimate average mass? I know it will vary from person to person based on their body chemistry, equilibrium body mass and so forth, but I'm still curious about what sort of average gains one might get.
Assume the user is 180lbs, 15%bf, no previous anabolic steroid use. Good diet, gets 8-10 hours of sleep almost every night. Has done about a year of heavy weight training, has gained some but not a lot. 2mg/lb (360mg/week) of Deca is used in a cycle. About what would you expect the 'average' gain to be?

Second question: If 400mg/week were added to the Deca cycle, what would one expect to gain then?

I understand these questions can't be answered with arithmetic precision, but I was curious about the average gains to be expected in that sort of situation.

first of all, it really depends on diet, training, genetics, and a bunch of other shit... so really hard to say.
and secondly, what are you going to be taking with it? deca alone is a big no no if you ever want to get your dick hard in the next few months. you need to throw in some test or dbol bro

[autarch]

first of all, it really depends on diet, training, genetics, and a bunch of other shit... so really hard to say.

I know that, but I was wondering if there was any sort of 'average' for a beginner.

and secondly, what are you going to be taking with it? deca alone is a big no no if you ever want to get your dick hard in the next few months. you need to throw in some test or dbol bro

400mg/Test is what I've decided on.

[Massive690]

Originally Posted by autarch

I know that, but I was wondering if there was any sort of 'average' for a beginner.

400mg/Test is what I've decided on.

ok cool... well as long as the training/diet are right on, id say the average gain is about 20-25lbs for a cycle like this if its your first. you are going to be holding a lot of water with the test/deca though, so with proper pct you will probably keep about 15lbs.


just so you know, im probably going to get flamed for even posting some shit like this... but im drunk and i dont really care, so bring it on fuckers
but seriously though bro, you wont know till you try... just remember that you are asking some dude on the internet who has never even seen/met you about how much muscle you are going to gain on a cycle... kinda funny aint it?

whatever though, we all gotta start somewhere right? good luck bro

[autarch]

I've gotten seven pounds in five days, I'd say at least half of which is muscle (judging from my relative fat and strength gains). I'm not my natural max, so my gains are going to be higher, but I'd rather spend eight weeks getting to or near my genetic maximum and working hard to maintain than spend three years getting there. This is, for me, a vanity thing.