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Old 07-25-2005, 03:50 PM
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Hey guys, noobie here.

It's been about 5 years since I did a cycle (I've done 2) and due to some time off and an injury I'm way behind on my training and it shows.

I will continue to get closer to where I need to be before I start another cycle.

In the past I did a cycle w/ just Equipoise and then w/ just Winstrol and both times it gave me exactly what I wanted. The first cycle I picked up about 14 #'s and remained reasonably lean. And the 2nd cycle I picked up another 10#'s and I got good and hard w/ absolutely no bad side effects.

For years I kept the results but in the last year I have lost approximately 8 #'s and by BF has went from 10% to about 18.5%. Not good! (I am 33, 6'0", 174#)

I am once again looking to just gain 7-13 #'s and primarily lean up a lot. My diet and excersise regiment is pretty strict (now that I'm following it again) and I'll have that part of the equation down. Of course, proper rest and no alcohol is also part of the equation.

My question is, in what amounts and how often should I use the Equipoise that I just got? It's the 200 mg stuff. Made in Canada w/ Spanish writing. Assuming that this is all I have access to and my rather modest goals can I have an effective cycle using just the Equipoise?

How often and how much would I inject?

Should I taper down at the end of my cycle?

Should the cycle last 8 weeks?

Am I going to find that I need another AS to taper off this stuff or to avoid unwanted side effects?

Hair & skin quality are VERY important to me as is retaining my full sex drive. Have a lean muscular appearance is what I am after. A good muscular physique is the goal but not the huge bloated muscular look.

Guys, I would really appreciate your input on this. I did read the thread for first time users but it did not address these specific questions. Thanks again.
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I did an EQ only cycle about 10 years ago and wasn't very impressed. I tried 750mg/week.
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EQ needs to be run minimum of 12 weeks. Without test your sex drive will most likely suffer. You should run EQ at 400-600 mgs per week and 500mgs test per week. You should run arimidex at .5 eod and have nolvadex on hand as well. This will yield the results you're looking for. Be sure to do post cycle recovery at the end.
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You should be able to gain 7-13 lbs naturally.

If eq is all you can get, I'm sure it will help move things along. 400mg/week for 10-12 weeks should get you where you want to be. If it was me, since eq has such a long half life, I would cut hard the 1st 5-6 weeks of the cycle. The eq should help you hold on to what muscle you have during this time. After that, you can up the cals for the next 5-6 weeks (at least 1.5grams of protien per pound of body weight) and hope to put on a pound or 2 each week. I think it can be done with what you have.

The thing you didn't mention though was PCT (post cycle therapy). You should get some nolva or clomid at the very least to try and jump start your natural test production when the cylce is done. Without it, you might end up losing a large percentage of your gains.
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Good info guys. Thanks!

Is test a general name for a group of AS's or a specific one?

Also, I believe I can pretty easily get ahold of some clomid or Nolvadex. What's the proper way to use them? When and how much?

I was under the impression that the eq was unlikely to cause any of the unwanted side effects including a reduction in my own test production. That must be incorrect.
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Test means testosterone. Examples are test enanthate, test cypionate, test propionate, sustanon etc.

Pretty much any steroid will have a negative effect on your bodys natural testosterone production albeit some more so than others.
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