best way to use clomid?

[ceasar]

considering using clomid for 2 weeks in middle if cycle and then 3 weeks post cycle with first week taking two ed (cycle is almost 14weeks long)

do you take both at same time or split morning and afternoon when taking 2ed or does it matter

does clomid have any other benifits other than getting the little boys going again?

in past have always used hcg- is clomid better
need feed back

taking ses,eq, winnie for last six weeks and primo for last 3 to come off with

[einstein1905]

Originally Posted by ceasar

considering using clomid for 2 weeks in middle if cycle and then 3 weeks post cycle with first week taking two ed (cycle is almost 14weeks long)

do you take both at same time or split morning and afternoon when taking 2ed or does it matter

does clomid have any other benifits other than getting the little boys going again?

in past have always used hcg- is clomid better
need feed back

taking ses,eq, winnie for last six weeks and primo for last 3 to come off with

A few things here...
clomid won't get your litle boys running again mid cycle. the reason...clomid acts at the level of the hypothalamus/pituitary to do its thing.....all the exogenous you take in will have your plasma test (AAS) levels so high that their suppressive effect on HPTA will dominate the minor countereffect of clomid mid cycle. HCG, on the other hand, works at the level of LH (it's a LH mimic), so it will directly act on the testes, and there are no intermediate steps where negative regulation come into play.

Clomid has a long half life, so taking it all in one dose is fine.

[ceasar]

Originally Posted by einstein1905

A few things here...
clomid won't get your litle boys running again mid cycle. the reason...clomid acts at the level of the hypothalamus/pituitary to do its thing.....all the exogenous you take in will have your plasma test (AAS) levels so high that their suppressive effect on HPTA will dominate the minor countereffect of clomid mid cycle. HCG, on the other hand, works at the level of LH (it's a LH mimic), so it will directly act on the testes, and there are no intermediate steps where negative regulation come into play.

Clomid has a long half life, so taking it all in one dose is fine.

ok bro -- i appreciate your time--

but some of your info is a little to high tech for me -

so what your saying is that there is no advantage to taking clomid in the middle of cycle but there is an advantage to taking hcg in middle of cycle

is clomid better to use post cycle than hcg-- obviously both would most likely be optimal but if you were to use one or the other what would you prefer-

is it worth taking hcg mid cycle?

and still need info on dosage of clomid and when to start taking in reference to gear im stacking -- will be taking eq and ses for 9 weeks then week 10 100mg primo for 3 weeks-- will stop winnie on week 12 (does that sound correct) so when start clomid?

[ceasar]

p.s. not interested in using clomid as an anti esti.

[Deacon]

dont use clomid during the cycle - period - why would you want to?

I dont understand your reasoning here since you dont really explain why you were going to run it.


HCG mid cycle can be beneficial


a chart for you;

Steroid.....Time After Administration.....Clomid Length

Anadrol50/Anapolan50.......8-12 hours.....3 weeks
Deca Durobolan................3 weeks........4 weeks
Dianabol.........................4-8 hours.......3 weeks
Equipoise........................17-21 days.....3 weeks
Finajet/Trenbolone............3 days...........3 weeks
Primobolan Depot..............10-14 days.....2 weeks
Sustanon.........................3 weeks........3 weeks
Test Cypionate.................2 weeks........3 weeks
Test Enthenate/Testoviron..2 weeks........3 weeks
Test Propionate.................3 days..........3 weeks
Test Suspension................4-8 hours......2 weeks
Winstrol...........................8-12 hours.....2 weeks

Take 300mg on your 1st day of therapy, then take
100mg/day for 10 days, and then take 50mg/day
for 10 more days, check nuts and continue if needed.

some HCG info;

HCG therapy has been found to be very effective in the prevention of testicular atrophy and to use the body’s own biochemical stimulating mechanisms to increase plasma testosterone level during training. Some steroid users find that they have some of their best strength and size gains while using HCG in conjunction with the steroids. This may wee be due to the facts that the body has high level of natural androgens as well as the artificial steroid hormones at that time.

The optimal dosage for an athlete using HCG has never been established, but it is thought that a single shot of 1000 to 2000 IU per week will get the desired results. Cycles on the HCG should be kept down to three weeks at a time with an off cycle of at least a month in between. For example, one might use the HCG for two to three weeks in the middle of a cycle, and for two or three weeks at the end of a cycle. It has been speculated that the prolonged use of HCG could repress the body’s own production of gonadotropins permanently. This is why the short cycles are the best way to go.

[ceasar]

excellent -- thank you

sorry for ignorance-- for some reason had it in my head that clomid and hcg were similar

[einstein1905]

Also, HCG isn't going to give you huge boosts of test after administration...one study said it showed 2.5-3X your natural test levels after administration of 1500IU of HCG. However, you have to consider during cycle, your natural test production is next to nothing. So, 3X that is still negligible relative to your plasma test levels as a result of using exogenous test.
HCG's primary role for us is to prevent the boys from shriveling up. This speeds up pct.

[ceasar]

still yet i wonder which is more effective for post cycle recovery