blood results are in

[slick33158]

Alright, I went and got a copy of my blood work I had done yesterday and here are some results, this is while i'm in week 6 of a 500mg test and 350mgs deca EW cycle:

Testosterone:
my level:2050 ng/dL, normal range: 400-1080 ng/dL VERY HIGH

Red Blood cells:
my level:6.06, normal range: 4.5-5.9 SLIGHTLY HIGH

White Blood cells
My level: 6.7. normal range:3.6-10.6 NORMAL

Cholesterol
My level:171, normal range:124-199 NORMAL

HDL
my level:26, normal range:40-63 LOW

LDL
my level:115, normal range <100 HIGH

VLDL
my level:30, normal range:9-29 HIGH NORMAL

Chol/LDL
my level:6.6, normal range: <4.5 HIGH

Triglycerides
My level:149, normal range:44-149 HIGH NORMAL

Hct (hematocrit?)
My level:53.2, normal range: 41-53 SLIGHTLY HIGH

creatinine
MY level:1.5, normail range: 0.8-1.3 SLIGHTLY HIGH (She seemed very concerned about this)

Sodium
My level:140, normal range: 137-146 NORMAL

Potassium
My level:4.1, normal range:3.5-5.0 NORMAL

Chloride(or chlorine?)
my level:103, normal range:98-109 NORMAL

It all looks better than I expected, for all you knowledgable ones, do you think any of this warrants concern? The nurse said the cholesterol values arent good but nothing to worry too much about. Obviosly my testosterone was through the damn roof, she didnt say anything about it, I think she though it was an error and is having it sent to a different lab for re-test. My RBC's really aren't all that high, barely over the cut-off so i dont think I really need to donate RBC's. If i'm not retaining sodium or potasium like they say test makes you do, I hope I'm retaining nitrogen! Any way, jsup and those that know a thing or two, what do you think?

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by slick33158

Alright, I went and got a copy of my blood work I had done yesterday and here are some results, this is while i'm in week 6 of a 500mg test and 350mgs deca EW cycle:

Testosterone:
my level:2050 ng/dL, normal range: 400-1080 ng/dL VERY HIGH

Red Blood cells:
my level:6.06, normal range: 4.5-5.9 SLIGHTLY HIGH

White Blood cells
My level: 6.7. normal range:3.6-10.6 NORMAL

Cholesterol
My level:171, normal range:124-199 NORMAL

HDL
my level:26, normal range:40-63 LOW

LDL
my level:115, normal range <100 HIGH

VLDL
my level:30, normal range:9-29 HIGH NORMAL

Chol/LDL
my level:6.6, normal range: <4.5 HIGH

Triglycerides
My level:149, normal range:44-149 HIGH NORMAL

Hct (hematocrit?)
My level:53.2, normal range: 41-53 SLIGHTLY HIGH

creatinine
MY level:1.5, normail range: 0.8-1.3 SLIGHTLY HIGH (She seemed very concerned about this)

Sodium
My level:140, normal range: 137-146 NORMAL

Potassium
My level:4.1, normal range:3.5-5.0 NORMAL

Chloride(or chlorine?)
my level:103, normal range:98-109 NORMAL

It all looks better than I expected, for all you knowledgable ones, do you think any of this warrants concern? The nurse said the cholesterol values arent good but nothing to worry too much about. Obviosly my testosterone was through the damn roof, she didnt say anything about it, I think she though it was an error and is having it sent to a different lab for re-test. My RBC's really aren't all that high, barely over the cut-off so i dont think I really need to donate RBC's. If i'm not retaining sodium or potasium like they say test makes you do, I hope I'm retaining nitrogen! Any way, jsup and those that know a thing or two, what do you think?

ok here it goes.
-RBC are normal
-For HDL take fish oil to raise it
-Your hematocrit is PRETTY HIGH usually 50 is the cutoff. Not 53. That's the percentage of RBC's to the entire blood composition. So donating wouldn't be a bad idea, you DON"T want want almost 54 crit. Also drink more water and have less salt in your diet, that will bring the crit down.
-Your creatine is normal at 1.5, that is the cutoff. Plus having more muscle mass your creatine is bound to show a little higher than the average person. It doesn't take into account muscle mass, do not be concerned about it.
-Well not so bad, I recommend upping fluid intake and donating double reds if you can, you will prob. feel much better, especially w/ that high crit. But all in all not bad.

[slick33158]

Right on. Now if I can just get this blood pressure under control. Being semi familiar with that problem combined with my blood test, Do you thnik it would be ok to go to 300mgs test and 300mgs deca EW and still maintain some gains? Or should I stop cycle? My BP is just all over the place, 140/80 one minute, 130/40 the next. I dont know. that's the only thing concerning me. I already take a bunch of fish oil and niacin for my cholesterol. I even eat flax seed a few times per week.

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by slick33158

Right on. Now if I can just get this blood pressure under control. Being semi familiar with that problem combined with my blood test, Do you thnik it would be ok to go to 300mgs test and 300mgs deca EW and still maintain some gains? Or should I stop cycle? My BP is just all over the place, 140/80 one minute, 130/40 the next. I dont know. that's the only thing concerning me. I already take a bunch of fish oil and niacin for my cholesterol. I even eat flax seed a few times per week.

Do you take toprol??? if so.. how much

[slick33158]

No, unless thats the brand name for lisoprinil, I take it at 40mgs/day.

[jsupstarz]

Ok no toprol is different. 40mg is a good dose, so If that doesn't start to help you may need to switch meds, such as a beta blocker ex.metoprolol

[slick33158]

Yeah, that's a whole nother story. Here it goes: Ex-opiate addict, Doing good, staying clean and healthy, new addiction is working out. I got a good start natural and now am blowing through my platues w/ AAS. Anyway, I am now on long term High dose methadone therapy. I take 140mgs of methadone every morning. So, that has the effect of lowering my pulse during the day when it peaks. So, I was on clonidine, a beta-blocker at first, but my resting pulse was at about 35-40BPM during sleep. So, that is why we switched to the ACE inhib. No effect on pulse. Anyway, I shoot twice per week, 250 test and 180 of deca. So, my next scheduled pin is tomorrow morning. I thought maybe I'll skip this pin and let my levels fall a bit (I'm sure they wont much) and then return to my regular dosing regimen on monday evening only drop the test and deca to 150mgs 2X week and see what happens. The problem I'm seeing with the ACE inhib is that its lowering my diastolic but having little or no effect on my systolic and so I'm left with this huge pulse pressure. I'm just a walking bag of problems aren't I. And I'm only in my twenties! I'll probably wind up dying of cardiovascular problems but I guess its the leading cause of death anyway. I'd like to make to at least 50 though

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by slick33158

Yeah, that's a whole nother story. Here it goes: Ex-opiate addict, Doing good, staying clean and healthy, new addiction is working out. I got a good start natural and now am blowing through my platues w/ AAS. Anyway, I am now on long term High dose methadone therapy. I take 140mgs of methadone every morning. So, that has the effect of lowering my pulse during the day when it peaks. So, I was on clonidine, a beta-blocker at first, but my resting pulse was at about 35-40BPM during sleep. So, that is why we switched to the ACE inhib. No effect on pulse. Anyway, I shoot twice per week, 250 test and 180 of deca. So, my next scheduled pin is tomorrow morning. I thought maybe I'll skip this pin and let my levels fall a bit (I'm sure they wont much) and then return to my regular dosing regimen on monday evening only drop the test and deca to 150mgs 2X week and see what happens. The problem I'm seeing with the ACE inhib is that its lowering my diastolic but having little or no effect on my systolic and so I'm left with this huge pulse pressure. I'm just a walking bag of problems aren't I. And I'm only in my twenties! I'll probably wind up dying of cardiovascular problems but I guess its the leading cause of death anyway. I'd like to make to at least 50 though

Ok i see, then yeah beta blockers won't work for ya. Did you ever look into angiotensin II's, look them up. Well it may not be a bad idea to lower your doses and see if your health kind of levels out. Keep an eye on your pulse pressure, but using a cuff that's too small can make huge pulse pressures. You'll make it over 50

[Président]

Originally Posted by slick33158

Yeah, that's a whole nother story. Here it goes: Ex-opiate addict, Doing good, staying clean and healthy, new addiction is working out. I got a good start natural and now am blowing through my platues w/ AAS. Anyway, I am now on long term High dose methadone therapy. I take 140mgs of methadone every morning. So, that has the effect of lowering my pulse during the day when it peaks. So, I was on clonidine, a beta-blocker at first, but my resting pulse was at about 35-40BPM during sleep. So, that is why we switched to the ACE inhib. No effect on pulse. Anyway, I shoot twice per week, 250 test and 180 of deca. So, my next scheduled pin is tomorrow morning. I thought maybe I'll skip this pin and let my levels fall a bit (I'm sure they wont much) and then return to my regular dosing regimen on monday evening only drop the test and deca to 150mgs 2X week and see what happens. The problem I'm seeing with the ACE inhib is that its lowering my diastolic but having little or no effect on my systolic and so I'm left with this huge pulse pressure. I'm just a walking bag of problems aren't I. And I'm only in my twenties! I'll probably wind up dying of cardiovascular problems but I guess its the leading cause of death anyway. I'd like to make to at least 50 though

Man that's a lot of stuff!

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by Président

Man that's a lot of stuff!

Yes it is, I wish he could get off the methadone one of these days, that's really throwing a stick in the mud, but it's so hard when your hooked on it, Iv'e been in a similar situation.

[slick33158]

It is rough stuff, and with opiates you not only have worry about psychological addiction, but severe physical dependence as well. To tell you the truth most of problems started when I started methadone. I just dont think it would be a good idea to try anything crazy and come off of it right now. Maybe down the road a little. That is what led me into TRT too, cause opiates shut your test down big time, My levels were 109 ng/dL before going on any test, now their over 2,000, wonder what the doc thinks about that! I think its hindering my gains somewhat as well. When I got clean, I had a two year forced period of being abstinent from everything if you know what I mean. Clink clank! Any I made gains naturally really well for that two years.

[lou123]

Your T results are very strange. I hadmy T tested (independent lab) last year week 6 of a 500mg/week cycle of Cypionate only and it was approx 3900 NG/DL. Just wondering why yours is so much lower.


100 mg a week of Test will take a guy with low T to about 800 ng/dl 3 days after the shot . Since you are shooting twice a week and 5x's the dose your T should be much higher than 2,000

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by lou123

Your T results are very strange. I hadmy T tested (independent lab) last year week 6 of a 500mg/week cycle of Cypionate only and it was approx 3900 NG/DL. Just wondering why yours is so much lower.


100 mg a week of Test will take a guy with low T to about 800 ng/dl 3 days after the shot . Since you are shooting twice a week and 5x's the dose your T should be much higher than 2,000

Narcs, supress testosterone...

[lou123]

Originally Posted by jsupstarz

Narcs, supress testosterone...

Big time I guess !!

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by lou123

Big time I guess !!

Heavy narc usage definitley does!