Steroid Forum: This is a discussion on bulk cycle to cutting within the Anabolic Steroids forums, part of the extensive steroid information at MESO-Rx; Originally Posted by prodigy06
guess it's unanimous then.
But what if I kept the test e and just adjusted my ...
guess it's unanimous then.
But what if I kept the test e and just adjusted my diet / cardio, since that is really what determines a bulk or cut, would you still suggest coming off? test is test in the end, and I could control estrogen w/ an AI and water retention with low carbs and winny.
this is what we like to call denial. "what if i just drink one beer a day. that won't hurt will it". the first step in recovery, is admitting you have a problem, and that your balls miss making T just messing with ya prod
Theoretically, yes, you can do that. Switch compounds and change the diet up and harden up. Here is the one thing that concerns me with this. At SOME point you are gonig to need to come off. Im guessing that you are thinking of doing that after you cut. Well, you can lose some fat and hold on to your muscle while still holding onto ur muscle. However, coming off is going to be extra hard for you. When you come off, you are going to have to eat everything you can to keep that muscle on your frame. When doing that, the "cut" you just worked so hard for, is going to disappear with the bloat and fat you are going to have to gain from raising your cals so high. So, not only did you come off, but the cutting portion just went out the window. Now, if you come off, rest and refresh your body for a bit, then you can go into a diet then and when you come off, your not trying to keep your MUSCLE mass you gained, you are just trying to keep your current form which is much easier to do. And then when the time comes that you are wanting to gain again, you will be at a lower bodyfat to do so, so your body will be more proned to gaining pure muscle instead of muscle and fat.
thats way too long to be on for one all your major gains are made in the first 10 weeks to 12 after that its just maintaining them more easily.its just like when you started working out seriously you make huge gains for 6 months then plateau.staying on that long you would have to keep upping doses which leads to your body biulding a tolerance.every cycle would have to run at higher doses after that.I tryed that whole cycle bulking to cutting back to back take my advice its the shits and when coming off it really fucks with your head.depression isn't even the word.think how shitty you feel when you have a bad work-out and times it by 3 months. take a break if its a must to go back on right away at least run your PCT then hit it again.
your not trying to keep your MUSCLE mass you gained, you are just trying to keep your current form which is much easier to do. And then when the time comes that you are wanting to gain again, you will be at a lower bodyfat to do so
yea, that does sound right, i'll do it that way.
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thats way too long to be on for one all your major gains are made in the first 10 weeks to 12 after that its just maintaining them more easily [...] keep upping doses which leads to your body biulding a tolerance.
Yea, you do gain more in the start but that's to be expected. It's not like everything after week 12 is a waste, you still gain and gain faster and better then if you were off or just cycled for 12 weeks every 24 weeks or so.. and that's with out upping the dose. I don't believe you can build a toerance. Obviously the bigger you get the less noticable gains will be and the more you will need to eat ect... "tolerance" isn't the right word. If it you did build one the guys on TRT would need to up the dose every year. You get the same effect but it may be less noticable on your body.
Well, tolerance by definition means basically that you need a larger amount of something to get the same results you previously had. So, yes, you build a tolerance. Not saying that it became nul to keep taking it, which your right about, but like you said, the results become slower and slower and harder and harder to obtain than at first. Yes, because of the new size you have, but also because of your body trying to stay in homeostasis.
Dont KILL your self..... Time off is needed. You should probably go get some blood work done to check all your levels to make sure your health is okay.
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bro you been on for a year bulking up and go of aas muscle mass will fall off in clumps. some knowledgeable bros have posted suggesting you go off. i disagree. the cycle you have given will work. what is your goal though? are you a competitive bodybuilder? if not then, i would use something that included a little test prop, say 200mg a week. stay big and cut for the summer so you can enjoy all the hard work you put into this. after that hcg and clomid for pct. good luck bro and take care.
Holy fuck, I didnt realize how old this thread was.... lol .. All the forums are turning into prohormone havens and all the interesting posts are old as fuck. Shits Weak.
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Re: bulk cycle to cutting 
just messing with ya prod
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