Bulking Cycle!!!

[Silverback]

My bulking cycle is starting next week-- I am sitting at 228 at around 15%bf--

Cycle
Week 1-15 Test e. 1200mg Morning Star Labs
Week 1-15 EQ 600-800mg MSL
Week 1-4 Dbol 30-40mg Naps
Week 5-15 Tren E. 375-500mg Zencall(B-6 started at 400mg daily)
ldex through .50 ED
PCT--clomid, clen, nolvadex, creatine

Diet
5500-6500 cals daily---

Questions

1--I am debating if I should run t-3 at a low dosage of 12.5-25mcg daily during the cycle to help with the excess of calories?

2--Do you guys think .50mg of ldex is enough or should I bump it up to 1mg daily?


Any other suggestions are welcome-- I am trying to get to 260--Its a stretch but I am aiming high

Wish me luck--I have been planning this for a while and I am very excited about it--

[Silverback]

Originally Posted by Bigkarch

I would take the t3 up to 25 mcg...tren is known to lower t3 levels and I have seen some research that suggests it can help with prog gyno....I would not do the dbol that long...I would do it no longer than 6 weeks, maybe 8 at the most....and .5 mg of dex is enough....Personally, if it was me...I probably would drop the eq....there are some benefits such as increased collagen synthesis and for hunger, but that is all you will get out of this cycle with it. the test and tren will out perform the eq. (as far as total results...in other words, I dont think you will see any difference is size, or strength or weight gain not having it).....I would lower the test (JMO) to 1 gram and the tren to 500-700 mg depending on how you can handle the tren...I would stop the tren at 13 weeks....I would also get some hcg for pct.....Good luck

My fault Bigkarch-- I meant 4 weeks of dbol--I edited it

I have just never used eq in a bulking cycle, and I am curious as to how my body responds to it when I am bulking-- I dont think I can handle 700mg of tren e, so I am going to stick with 375-500 probably at 500mg.

I have never used HCG-- how you would recommend using it?
Also, why would you stop the tren e at week 13? I assume simply to limit the time using a "harsh" drug?
thanks for the input

[Silverback]

Thanks bigkarch-- Do you think I should run the t-3 the whole cycle or just while I am on the tren e?

Also, since I would just be taking 1 t-3 tab, would you take it all at once or split it up into 2 times daily?

peace

[Silverback]

bump for more input

[brucebanner78]

Silverback - Wish I could help, actually Im running an almost identical cycle starting as soon as I get everything togther. Since your starting before me keep posting on your results so I know what to expect, etc.
Dr.Banner "The Incredible One"

[Silverback]

Originally Posted by Bigkarch

Yeah, I would run it for the whole cycle...as far as frequency, one is fine...If I was using a bigger dose to lose weight, I would do it 2x ED. You can do it either way with good results...sometimes I forget to take the second dose since I get busy late in the evening....your choice....

Thanks bro -- I think I will add in to my cycle--never tried it in a bulker --I dont think 25mcg will burn much(if any) muscle while I am on this amount of gear--

peace

[Silverback]

Cycle update--

My weight is up to 237 --

Strength is starting to climb-- Did chest yesterday and I was very strong(for myself- 115 incline db for 8 reps after flat bench press)-- Cant wait till I start the TREN E!!


I am having some trouble the last few days getting my cals down-- I have only been getting around 4400!!! - And 1000 of that is from 2 myoplex sport shakes--

Dont know what the problem is--- any help or suggestions is welcome??

[lolokoss]

The cycel looks killer bro, keep us updated!
Especially on that tren E.

I would have dieted down first but, mind you, I am just a pretty boy who wants to look like Zane.

[Silverback]

Originally Posted by lolokoss

The cycel looks killer bro, keep us updated!
Especially on that tren E.

I would have dieted down first but, mind you, I am just a pretty boy who wants to look like Zane.

I thought about dieting down some more, but I figured I would have alot more muscle mass and size to diet down from after this cycle--plus winter is approaching in my area--

[graybass]

Silverback,
I'm on almost the same cycle. The one thing I did different is, I started out with Deca at 600mg EW instead of the EQ (I think it's better for size gains)
I only ran the Deca 5 weeks to get me started. I switched over to 500mg of Tren E EW, with 400mg EQ.
In my case I started the t-3 with the Tren.

I agree with bigkarch on the HCG, except I finish my PCT with Clomid also.

Good luck! GB