Bulking then cutting cycle?

[elgaringo]

In theory how would this look for a bulking then cutting cycle?

Week 1 to 6:- 500mg Sust 250 mon 250 thu
4500 cals

Week 7 to 10:- 200mg Sust 100 mon 100 thu. 50mg of Tren eod
2500 cals

Obviously with all the correct foods and nutrients in place! 5*5 all the way through, then weeks 7 to 10, 45 mins of cardio 6 days a week. Would this be too much for a first cycle? Also can some of you veterans remember your first cycles? Would clomid and nolv be ok for pct or should some hcg be on hand?

Just throwing a few things around! what do you chaps think?

[Deacon]

why not stop fucking around and just run the test and tren all cycle - like for 10 weeks?

[ag-guys]

Originally Posted by elgaringo

In theory how would this look for a bulking then cutting cycle?

Week 1 to 6:- 500mg Sust 250 mon 250 thu
4500 cals

Week 7 to 10:- 200mg Sust 100 mon 100 thu. 50mg of Tren eod
2500 cals

Obviously with all the correct foods and nutrients in place! 5*5 all the way through, then weeks 7 to 10, 45 mins of cardio 6 days a week. Would this be too much for a first cycle? Also can some of you veterans remember your first cycles? Would clomid and nolv be ok for pct or should some hcg be on hand?

Just throwing a few things around! what do you chaps think?

I would take at least 4 weeks minimum for the tren to be effective. I would consider Deacon's advice and do both the full cycle.

AG
www.ag-guys.com

[Big_paul]

looks like the cycle you have planned will do what your looking for. I like to run tren at the end of a cycle and cut back on test to harden up. i have also had good results running less test throughout and tren the entire cycle for lean gains. 250mg test ew 75mg tren eod. good luck also i do like to use hcg for pct.

[ItalianPride]

Originally Posted by Big_paul

looks like the cycle you have planned will do what your looking for. I like to run tren at the end of a cycle and cut back on test to harden up. i have also had good results running less test throughout and tren the entire cycle for lean gains. 250mg test ew 75mg tren eod. good luck also i do like to use hcg for pct.

doing 75mg of tren eod can u get away doing it with pins smaller then 21 or 22 ..possibly 24...sounds like eod can be alittle painful for 21's

[Big_paul]

i use insulin needles or 25gauge.they cause less muscle tissue damage. i also use the shortest neddles i can. so long as the goods are in muscle tissue your ok. what i do with a insulin syringe is to pull the plunger out and inject the product into it then put the plunger back in. this way it doesn't take 15 min to pull 1 cc. the small gauge neddles work well for everything except some suspensions for me . I use 28 gauge for delts and 25gauge 1in for glutes and quads. it beats the hell out of injecting ed with 22g 1 1\2 needles