Can anyone help???!!!!

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I am thinking about doing a cycle with Winny, Tren, EQ, and Clen. I am looking to get down bodyfat % and lose fat. I also want to harden up and get ripped. I will be on a very strict diet during this cycle. Here is what it looks like and let me know what I should expect or what you think about this cycle. Should I use the EQ or substitute it with something else cause I have not heard too many good things about it? Please help me with this.

EQ 600mg/week
Tren 150mg EOD
Winny 100mg EOD
Clen 100mcg ED for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off for 10 weeks

This cycle will be 8-10 weeks. Will I lose fat and bodyfat on this with a strict diet and also harden up? I am not looking to gain mass because I am already big enough. I am about 6'4 and 315 lbs.

[maxx]

Originally Posted by bigpun

I am thinking about doing a cycle with Winny, Tren, EQ, and Clen. I am looking to get down bodyfat % and lose fat. I also want to harden up and get ripped. I will be on a very strict diet during this cycle. Here is what it looks like and let me know what I should expect or what you think about this cycle. Should I use the EQ or substitute it with something else cause I have not heard too many good things about it? Please help me with this.

EQ 600mg/week
Tren 150mg EOD
Winny 100mg EOD
Clen 100mcg ED for 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off for 10 weeks

This cycle will be 8-10 weeks. Will I lose fat and bodyfat on this with a strict diet and also harden up? I am not looking to gain mass because I am already big enough. I am about 6'4 and 315 lbs.

a little bio on yourself would help....age,cycle experence,training experence,body fat% ect....

maxx

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Originally Posted by maxx

a little bio on yourself would help....age,cycle experence,training experence,body fat% ect....

maxx

I am 21 years old with 2 cycles under my belt. My last cycle was Tren acetate and Sustanon. I did Tren at 150mg EOD and Sust at 500mg/week. I had pretty good strength gains and mass. Now that I gained enough mass I want to start slimming down and losing fat. I want to be hard and defined rather than just mass. I have been weight training for 5 or 6 years. I am not sure of my bodyfat % but it is kind of high right now. I will be on a strict diet throughout this cycle and hope to lose a good percent of body fat.

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Originally Posted by Bigkarch

Well bro, my suggestion, given what you want is tren/prop, or tren/enant/cyp or tren/eq. Now how you lean out and become vascular depends on your diet and training. I personally like test and tren with some t3. I am not sure of your exact sats but I say 400-500 mg of test EW, 500-700 mg of tren E EW or 100 mg of Tren A ED, should give you what you need given you have the right training and diet. If you use the test/tren/eq, I would use the same above with about 500 mg of EQ. As for t3, no more than 25 mg ed.

So are you saying to drop the Eq and Winny and add a test and T3? Are you saying to do like a tren/prop combo with T3 and Clen? I was thinking that test would bloat me which I dont want and put on mass. I simply want to trim down and harden up. Please tell me what the best cycle you think would get me what I want. Like test/tren/eq/t3 or tren/winny/eq/t3? I thought that the cycle above would be good for losing fat and hardening.

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BUMP for more replies!!! Can any vets help??

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Originally Posted by Bigkarch

Actually I am a vet bro. I am not sure of your training history, but I take it you are somewhat knew to this. Training and diet is going to dictate how the AAS works for you. I always add test into the picture. If you do say 400 mg or even up to 500 mg, with a good anti e, you should not get that much bloat if any. Test/tren with a good diet and training will work wonders. You dont need the eq in there unless you are using it to increase hunger or increase collagen synthesis. I like t3 due to its protein synthesis properties. I would save the clen for pct.

Go with trest e or cyp and tren e, less shots. 400-500 mg of test/500-600 tren e EW.

BigKarch,

I never said that you werent a vet so sorry if you thought that. I put a little bio of myself on the thread, I guess you didnt see it. I am not that new to this and I have done 2 cycles before. I have been training for about 5 years so I think I know what I am doing. I just need to get my diet down and I will be fine. I was just wondering what would benefit me the best to try and slim down both my bodyfat and my weight? I am 6'4 and 315lbs with about 20% bodyfat which I know isnt good. I have been big all my life and I am ready to trim down. I have enough mass and now I want to get hard and muscular. I know I will probably never be ripped but I want to trim down that is why I thought the tren/Eq/ Winny/ and Clen would be good. Could I do test/tren/winny/T3? What do you think of this? Thanks for the help.

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i think you need to doa good ole cutting cycle in my opinion. bro you can get hard and cut on just about anything you take, it all depends on diet really. why not do a test/ tren enan/ t3/ clen cycle? i mean if you cant harden up off of that i dont know what will. good luck with your cycle though, i know what its like to have a high BF %.
-coachj

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Originally Posted by Bigkarch

No prob Big, I was just stroking my ego a bit. You can do the test/tren/winny. I personally dont like winny much since I am a powerlifter and it hurts my joints. If you want to do the three juice cycle, I would suggest the eq instead of winny, but some people like winny for that reason more than eq.

If mere slimming down is what you want right now, I say no AAS and work on your diet and cardio with moderate weights, to keep, not gain muscle mass. I am your size and have good mass, just not cut. I can not do a cycle of AAS and cut down to the size and leanness that you want to. You may be the same. I can lean down and lose weight off cycle with a good diet and training. I tend to lose some strength, but actually not much size. I eat a higher protein diet, lower carbs and train more like a BB than a power lifter. It has been successful in the past, but I get greedy and do another cycle and gain the size again. I love the power and strength vs. leanness. Just a thought bro.

Yea I understand what you are saying and I appreciate your help. I havent done a cycle yet to try to lean down and get harder. I have only done a cycle to gain mass and strength which I am not worried about anymore. I simply want to get harder and lose fat. What do you think about a Test/tren/t3/ and clen cycle? Would this help me to harden and lose fat while on a high protein, low carb diet? I want to try a cycle like this to see if I can get harder and leaner unlike you can. Let me know what you think I should do. Thanks.