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Old 02-11-2004, 03:28 PM
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I'm trying to get my first cycle figured out and I was thinking about running:
Week 1-6: Deca at 200-300mg/week
Week 1-8: Test Enanthenate at 500mg/week
Now, where I'm running into problems is the anti-e's and the PCT.
For anti-e's (because I'm prone to gyno. I was lucky enough to have two lumps removed when I was 18 from pubescent gynecomastia so I want to make sure that it doesn't happen again): run Femara at 2.5mg/EOD along with 10mg of Nolvadex ED. If gyno symptoms occur: run the nolva @ 80/day until the itchiness or puffiness is gone then drop down to 40 for two more days and if itchiness is still gone drop back down to 10mg/day.
For PCT:
HCG: 1000IU’s For Ten days. Starting one day after last injection.
Femara: run at 2.5mg EOD for 10 days after last injection.
NOLVADEX: 20mg ED Starting and Ending on the same day As the HCG.
Clomid: Starting on the last day of the HCG.
Day 1: 150mg
Day 2-8: 100mg ED
Day 9-16: 50mg ED
Day 17-24: 50mg EOD
Should I run Nolvadex at 10mg/day and femara at 2.5mg/EOD until I'm done with the clomid therapy?

Now, this has all come from recommendations from this board. This is me trying to apply it to myself and making sure that I have everything as it should before I run this cycle. The goals are mostly strength related with a modest fifteen pounds of lbm gain. Of course diet, training, and sleep are important and I've spent the last six years experimenting in that area. Thanks for the critique (and all the info that's already been posted).
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First cycle should be kept simple, you don't need to stack 2 injections, and you are not running them long enough.
wks 1-12 500mgs Enan
wks 1-4 30-40mgs Dbol ed, divided doses throughout day
nolvadex: use it only if you get signs of gyno
Clomid: start 2 weeks after your last Enan shot,
Day 1 300mgs, divided doses
day 2-15 100mgs ed
day16-31 50mgs ed

i have never used femara, hcg, and have always recovered fine using clomid only. Not bad for an old man of 39. Everybody is different and reacts differently to AS, but this worked fine for me on a first cycle.
I have never used Deca, and never will, have heard too many bad things about post cycle libido problems, sometimes lasting for weeks-months. Some don't run clomid this long, but I have found that this works best for me.
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First cycle should be kept simple, you don't need to stack 2 injections, and you are not running them long enough.
wks 1-12 500mgs Enan
wks 1-4 30-40mgs Dbol ed, divided doses throughout day
nolvadex: use it only if you get signs of gyno
Clomid: start 2 weeks after your last Enan shot,
Day 1 300mgs, divided doses
day 2-15 100mgs ed
day16-31 50mgs ed

i have never used femara, hcg, and have always recovered fine using clomid only. Not bad for an old man of 39. Everybody is different and reacts differently to AS, but this worked fine for me on a first cycle.
I have never used Deca, and never will, have heard too many bad things about post cycle libido problems, sometimes lasting for weeks-months. Some don't run clomid this long, but I have found that this works best for me.
My experience with Deca (only 2 cycles) was mixed. First cycle; no probs after a 10 week cycle with T-400. Second cycle; still no sex drive. Its been over 2 months. I have a hot GF and she has to nearly beg to get it. I've never had this low of a libido....it's kinda scary. I'm not altogether sure its the deca though because I used UG ancillaries as opposed to the pharmaceutical ancilaries with the first cycle.
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Old 02-11-2004, 06:33 PM
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i'd ace the deca and front load 25mg d-bol & add milk thistle. stir slowly.
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