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Old 09-08-2004, 04:59 PM
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i heard it waa fav of arnold .......
i know that they are both 17aa and prob hard on the liver but is it an effictive combo???
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i wouldnt, even with milk thristel it is very bad for your liver to combine 2 orals. unless your talking about injecting winny then yes you can. but i dont recommend a bulker like d-bol with a cutter like winny.
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i believe that a cycle can be a bulker of a cutter based on your diet not what your taking........however some steroids provide the muscle gain wiothout as much water retention.therefore being more appealing when cutting......just my2cents.....
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i wouldnt, even with milk thristel it is very bad for your liver to combine 2 orals. unless your talking about injecting winny then yes you can. but i dont recommend a bulker like d-bol with a cutter like winny.
Injectable winstrol is just as toxic to your liver as oral. It is a 17aa drug and even though you inject it your liver still has to metabolize it just the same.
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i wouldnt, even with milk thristel it is very bad for your liver to combine 2 orals. unless your talking about injecting winny then yes you can. but i dont recommend a bulker like d-bol with a cutter like winny.
It's not that combining two orals is a bad idea because I could take 25mgs. dbol ed and 25mgs. winstrol ed and it would be just as hard on the liver as an A-50...What You have to keep in mind is the total amt. of c-17-aa that is injested or injected for that matter when evaluating the toxicity of AAS.

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a post of this sort was brought up on another board, and a very good point was brought up that most dont think of when adding milk thistle or other liver supps into the mix of a cycle. using these substances will lessen the effects of the orals if you use them while on the orals. save the milk thistle for post cycle to help the liver recover.... before or during will just weaken the effects of your gear.
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a post of this sort was brought up on another board, and a very good point was brought up that most dont think of when adding milk thistle or other liver supps into the mix of a cycle. using these substances will lessen the effects of the orals if you use them while on the orals. save the milk thistle for post cycle to help the liver recover.... before or during will just weaken the effects of your gear.
I've never heard of milk thistle lessening the effectiveness of AAS. Is this just anectdotal evidence or do you have scientific proof to substantiate this claim?

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When you use compounds that increase gluthione levels in the liver, it will increase the breakdown of oral drugs or injections I thought, making them less effective. Although increasing liver enzymes is good for your liver, it is bad for any drugs you want to take and allow them to pass through your liver unabated. A better idea would be to use liver protectant supplements after a cycle to help your liver rebuild its enzymes after they have
been damaged by the compounds. i guess this is all just speculative as i have no studies to post up to back this up. and of course i could definitely be wrong =) (props to my man yo yo for the info)
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I think you'll be ok as long as you drink lots of h20 (at least 1 gal.), take milk thistle and stay away from anyother liver toxins like alcohol or tylenol. Just out of curiousity are you trying to do an oral only cycle to avoid shots.
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no i just love winny and dboll but have never combined
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