Changed it up...

[Diesel Machine]

Couldnt get my hands on some of the stuff I wanted, so heres what I changed it up too.. Let me know what you guys think...

-300mg enan EOD
-100mgs tren EOD
-150mgs masteron EOD
-100mgs drol a day
-6iu's slin 2x week then building up
-25mcgs T3 a day thenbuilding up

[role model]

Dang that a lot of shit. This is what I'm on and I thought it was on the high side.:

300mgs enan EOD
100mgs trenA EOD
200mgs deca EOD

[Gman2004]

Originally Posted by role model

Dang that a lot of shit. This is what I'm on and I thought it was on the high side.:

300mgs enan EOD
100mgs trenA EOD
200mgs deca EOD

I've read tren and deca is not good to run to togther. How long have you been running the two? I am currently on 600mg/wk of Deca and 900mg/wk test e, but I am running out of deca and ordered 40ml of tren a (75mg ED for 6wks) to replace my deca and finish my cycle..

[role model]

Originally Posted by Gman2004

I've read tren and deca is not good to run to togther. How long have you been running the two? I am currently on 600mg/wk of Deca and 900mg/wk test e, but I am running out of deca and ordered 40ml of tren a (75mg ED for 6wks) to replace my deca and finish my cycle..

Why is it not good??? I could see where EQ would work better for hardness. I only add tren for the last 6-7 weeks anyway at end of cycle.

[Gman2004]

Originally Posted by role model

Why is it not good??? I could see where EQ would work better for hardness. I only add tren for the last 6-7 weeks anyway at end of cycle.

both together can easily cause gyno. that's what I read.

I just not making the gains like I have in the past with deca. It's dissappointing cause my training and diet are better than ever before. I've only done tren once before about 3 years ago and I made very nice gains while staying lean. I figured if put something into that body that fairly foreign I might make better gains.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by Gman2004

both together can easily cause gyno. that's what I read.

That is very true for me. I have had to drop the Deca with Tren recently because of the gyno issues.

HDH

[rmtt]

Originally Posted by HDH

That is very true for me. I have had to drop the Deca with Tren recently because of the gyno issues.

HDH

Typically,

You won't see many people take Tren along with Deca because of the increased chance of progesterone related side effects. And this type of Gyno can't be avoided with general anti-e's. You need something more along the line of Bromo.

[terrorizer2]

Originally Posted by rmtt

Typically,

You won't see many people take Tren along with Deca because of the increased chance of progesterone related side effects. And this type of Gyno can't be avoided with general anti-e's. You need something more along the line of Bromo.

Anti-e's will help as progesterone gyno cannot occur without the prescence of estrogen.

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[rmtt]

Originally Posted by terrorizer2

Anti-e's will help as progesterone gyno cannot occur without the prescence of estrogen.

www.muscletalk.co.uk

I guess we will just have to disagree as estrogen and progesterone are two completely different hormones.

Estrogen is the female hormone equivalent to Test, and comes from the aromatization or conversion of excess test in the body. Estrogen is something that is naturally found in small amounts in a male body.

Progesterone comes from the conversion of compounds such as deca, Tren, etc. This is a hormone not naturally found in a males body as it is created in the ovaries of females.

They are completely different processes, and I have never seen a case study showing an anti-e to be effective in treating progesterone related side effects.

[HDH]

I dropped the Deca because Nolva didn't seem to help at all. I usually run it during a cycle because I am prone to gyno. I usually run 10 mg a day. I ran it 20mg a day because of the progesterone side effects. I thought upping the dose might help but it didn't. This is just my experience.

HDH