check this cycl!) diana/deca

[venicebeach]

Hi guys!..hoe u' doing over there ?
...gonna do a diana/deca cycl !....what do you think?.....I know...someone could say novaldex from 1th week could be not necessary....but I had past gyno problems...so wanna go safe !
thanks a lot !
.......training hard !

deca d. = week 1 to 6 = 200mg/w
dianab = week 1 and 6 = 15 mg/d ; week 2 and 5 = 20 mg/d ; week 3 and 4 = 25 mg/d
novaldex = week 1 to 7 = 10 mg/d
clomid = week 7 = 100 mg/d ; week 8 and 9 = 50 mg/d

[Reinheart]

Hey bro. That's not a good cycle. You should try:

Weeks 1-8/10 400mg Deca
Weeks 1-4/5 25-30mg Dianabol
Weeks 1-8/10 500 i.u Pregnyl

You might also need some cialis or viagra while on this cycle.

I would use nolva only in case of gyno. Otherwise i would do clomid for pct.

[indianaprodigy]

Id def add some type of test base to this cycle.

[Président]

you should incorporate TEST . Have you ever heard of Deca dick!!!!!!!!!!

[jsupstarz]

Yeah def. incorperate TEST!! And if you run your deca 6 weeks ESPEC. at 200mg you will get about 5 days worth the gains with it. You must run it at least 10weeks, w/ test. And you will want an AI not nolva for the deca (progest)

[RexRegum27]

Originally Posted by venicebeach

Hi guys!..hoe u' doing over there ?
...gonna do a diana/deca cycl !....what do you think?.....I know...someone could say novaldex from 1th week could be not necessary....but I had past gyno problems...so wanna go safe !
thanks a lot !
.......training hard !

deca d. = week 1 to 6 = 200mg/w
dianab = week 1 and 6 = 15 mg/d ; week 2 and 5 = 20 mg/d ; week 3 and 4 = 25 mg/d
novaldex = week 1 to 7 = 10 mg/d
clomid = week 7 = 100 mg/d ; week 8 and 9 = 50 mg/d

junk cycle man.
wk
1-12 test 500 mg/wk
1-11 deca 400 mg/wk
1-4(or 6 if u want) dbol 35-50 mg/day
1-12 adex .5 Every other day
1-11 take some vitamin b6 250 mg-500 mg/day
14-18 PCT: nolva and HCG, this is by far the best cycle w/o tren.

[HDH]

Originally Posted by venicebeach

Hi guys!..hoe u' doing over there ?
...gonna do a diana/deca cycl !....what do you think?.....I know...someone could say novaldex from 1th week could be not necessary....but I had past gyno problems...so wanna go safe !
thanks a lot !
.......training hard !

deca d. = week 1 to 6 = 200mg/w
dianab = week 1 and 6 = 15 mg/d ; week 2 and 5 = 20 mg/d ; week 3 and 4 = 25 mg/d
novaldex = week 1 to 7 = 10 mg/d
clomid = week 7 = 100 mg/d ; week 8 and 9 = 50 mg/d

You've got a lot of research to do.

What are your stats?......Including training and cycle experience.

HDH

[TheBeat]

Originally Posted by venicebeach

Hi guys!..hoe u' doing over there ?
...gonna do a diana/deca cycl !....what do you think?.....I know...someone could say novaldex from 1th week could be not necessary....but I had past gyno problems...so wanna go safe !
thanks a lot !
.......training hard !

deca d. = week 1 to 6 = 200mg/w
dianab = week 1 and 6 = 15 mg/d ; week 2 and 5 = 20 mg/d ; week 3 and 4 = 25 mg/d
novaldex = week 1 to 7 = 10 mg/d
clomid = week 7 = 100 mg/d ; week 8 and 9 = 50 mg/d

Warning! - Long post covering the basics;

Some things to think on:

Deca has a very long half-life, which is how long it takes for your body to metabolize half of the substance. It takes 6 weeks on average to reach peak blood levels of the steroid and therefore one should look at that and consider 6 weeks the starting point of good gains. Also, being that it has such a long half-life it takes a very long time to leave your system i.e. 4-6 weeks. Deca does not convert to DHT and only converts very mildily to estrogen at about 20% of the equivalent testosterone. Deca is also very suppressive with 100mg causing a complete shut-down of natural testosterone. Now given it's long life you have a steroid that leaves one suppressed for a very long time and given that it does not convert to DHT has no libido support capabilities.

So the natural precaution, actually with all steroids, is to add a test base; now you do have one with the Dianabol, but the problem is that Dianabol is hepatoxic and would need to be ran for a very long time, given it's 4-6 hour half-life you would need to run it 4 weeks longer than the Deca so a 6 week deca cycle would need 10 weeks of dianabol - not good for your health. So what we should do is add a long-estered testosterone and use that for the test and will only need to run it for 1-2 weeks longer than the Deca. All long-estered steroids take a long time to start to exzibit their efffects and starting your cycle with Dianabol for the first 3-5 weeks would be very complimentary and beneficual for almost immediate gains. If there is a particular reason why you are wanting to avoid test then simply forget about steroids....kidding, but honestly one should not be worried about testosterone at all given that it is running through your veins every waking minute, your just going to make a little more present; and if you still have issues at least take a (high) hormonal-replacement dose of around 200mg+.

Regarding your nolvadex usage during your cycle- if you are worried about gyno, which at your doses I would not be; let's go back and look at your deca dosage - 200mg. That much deca is going to produce the same amount of estrogen as 40mg of testosterone will, which is far less that half of what the average person produces. But back to the gyno prevention: Deca does have some progesteronic effects and binds to the progesterone receptor at 20% that of actual progesterone so again I would not really worry about it until you reach closer to 800mg, but we are using some test with it aren't we (dianabol in your example and Test and Dianabol in mine) so we might want some pro-active care in the order of an anti-estrogen used in low doses and raised if needed - something like Arimidex at .25mg every other to every day. Regarding the dreaded progesteronic sides that float on the internet, they only manifest themselves rarely and if they did need high levels of estrogen to cause problems, but we are going to lower that estrogen with a simple Anti-estrogen and call it cool. Now back to the nolvadex - though rare, if one were to experience progestin sides, nolvadex would only make them worse as nolvadex up-regulates the progesterone receptors and make them more sensitive to effects - look at it this way, again the potential for progestin sides are rare, but if arbitarily it takes 500mg of deca to cause problems in an individual using nolvadex could make the dose set-point that causes problems much lower like 300mg, again arbitarily speaking. There is also reason to believe that because of nolvadex's ability to make the PR more sensitive that by using it one might be setting themselves up for future problems, that's all speclative though. But there is absolutely no reason to ever use nolvadex during a deca cycle, or any for that matter; Letrozole is an anti-estrogen that is far better at gyno prevention/stopage/reversal than nolvadex can ever be. Letrozole is a very strong drug though and can easily completely remove estrogen, which we don't want unless you are trying to reverse gyno: people will say that nolvadex is the best at gyno prevention because it's the best at blocking estrogen in breast tissue, but if one uses letrozole which blocks estrogen in breat tissue as well as removes it from your system, then what good is nolvadex? I would use Arimidex as your base anti-estrogen and keep letrozole on-hand in case you ever need it. Nolvadex is for post-cycle only and even that is debatable.

I've rambled a bunch but hope that I have given some ideas and sparked the research bug in you and/or others.

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by HDH

You've got a lot of research to do.

What are your stats?......Including training and cycle experience.

HDH

I guess thebeat is the research from now on, You make it too easy, but if you wanna spend 30min. typing to a dumb question , go ahead

[TheBeat]

Originally Posted by jsupstarz

I guess thebeat is the research from now on, You make it too easy, but if you wanna spend 30min. typing to a dumb question , go ahead

You know, your right, I thought that about half-way through!

[jsupstarz]

Originally Posted by TheBeat

You know, your right, I thought that about half-way through!

LOL

[venicebeach]

...GOSH GUYS !...LOT OF THINGS !!!!.....mmmmmm......so....tha's what I've with me....how do you suggest to stack ?
...my previous cycles were just done by Stanozolol.....so don't wanna go too heavy...just 6 weeks

K.....let me know...broes !!!

18 amps deca 100mg
6 amps sust 250
250 tabs dianab
lots of tabs of Stanozolol
novaldex
clomid
proviron

[HDH]

Originally Posted by venicebeach

...GOSH GUYS !...LOT OF THINGS !!!!.....mmmmmm......so....tha's what I've with me....how do you suggest to stack ?
...my previous cycles were just done by Stanozolol.....so don't wanna go too heavy...just 6 weeks

K.....let me know...broes !!!

18 amps deca 100mg
6 amps sust 250
250 tabs dianab
lots of tabs of Stanozolol
novaldex
clomid
proviron

First, do more research.

Second, get more gear.

What are your stats?

HDH

[dennis]

Originally Posted by venicebeach

...GOSH GUYS !...LOT OF THINGS !!!!.....mmmmmm......so....tha's what I've with me....how do you suggest to stack ?
...my previous cycles were just done by Stanozolol.....so don't wanna go too heavy...just 6 weeks

K.....let me know...broes !!!

18 amps deca 100mg
6 amps sust 250
250 tabs dianab
lots of tabs of Stanozolol
novaldex
clomid
proviron

venice beach..something tells me you are very young..how old are you ?
You are not a good listener at all either.
6 weeks with what you have will not gain you didly ! Unless you count water weight as a gain.
Here it is again for you in plain english :
12 weeks sust 400-500 mgs per week
10-11 weeks deca 300-400 mgs per week
dbol 30 mgs ed first 4 weeks
stano tabs 50 mgs ed last 4-5 weeks
2 weeks waiting period for test to clear system keep taking stano 50 mgs ed
sell your clomid to other bb on venice beach.(make sure he is not a cop).
use nolvadex 4-6 weeks @ 20 mgs per day two weeks past last shot of test.

[jsupstarz]

Something tells me this is his first cycle.... dennis.