check out this REAL COMPLEX lean mass cycle......

[JonTest]

100mg/day of test prop....wk 1-12.......

I will probably add tren ace wks 4-12....but might just stick with test only..

[Bob Smith]

Whats your goal for this cycle? Are you preparing for a show?

[JonTest]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Whats your goal for this cycle? Are you preparing for a show?

No, no show.....About 3 months ago i came off a bulking cycle and gained good solid weight but now i want to preserve muscle while cut down(because gained some fat post cycle)....Maybe looking to add only 5 pounds but lose some fat....Should i add tren?? Never used it before.. but heard its the shit...

Stats: 6'3" 231 lbs (11-12% BF)
my diet would be somewhere around 2500 cals....High protein, moderate fat, and carbs only in the morning and immediately after workout....Whattdya thnk?

[Blind180]

Plans looks good to me!! I did a short 4 weeker of Prop/Tren cycle back in November and was looking very good before thanksgiving roled around.

I am not sure you are going to gain alot of size but you should be able to keep what you have while slimming down with the cals you are taking in. Do that morning cardio and stick to your diet all week except for a couple cheat meals and you will get ripped up in no time. It is debatable if tren burns fat but I know quit a few people who swear they get leaner with no diet changes while on Tren. If all your other things are in check.... Diet, Cardio, Training and Rest you will give the gear the best chance to work its magic. Good Luck

Blind180

[Blind180]

When I first saw the thread title I was liek oh shit what has this bro concocted up now. Too many people get wrapped up in crazy expensinve exotic compounds/cycles that require a engineering degree form MIT to make sense of. I am always of the KISS theory, Keep It Simple Stupid and it looks liek youare following the same theory. Peace

Blind180

[JonTest]

Originally Posted by Blind180

When I first saw the thread title I was liek oh shit what has this bro concocted up now. Too many people get wrapped up in crazy expensinve exotic compounds/cycles that require a engineering degree form MIT to make sense of. I am always of the KISS theory, Keep It Simple Stupid and it looks liek youare following the same theory. Peace

Blind180

Yeah thats why i titled the thread the way i did...It will probably turn some heads....Yeah i think im gonna run the tren the last 8 weeks....lata..thanks for the advice

[Bob Smith]

Originally Posted by Blind180

When I first saw the thread title I was liek oh shit what has this bro concocted up now. Too many people get wrapped up in crazy expensinve exotic compounds/cycles that require a engineering degree form MIT to make sense of. I am always of the KISS theory, Keep It Simple Stupid and it looks liek youare following the same theory. Peace

Blind180

Thats exactly what I was thinking. "Oh no, its a Paul Borrenson cycle!"

Jon, I think you can hit your goal without using AAS through training and diet alone. But thats up to you. Check out the nutrition forum and look for the "Hey Bob, lets get the ball rolling" thread."

Also, the UD2 (which is what Im using now) is an awesome diet and training program. Worth looking into.

[JonTest]

Originally Posted by Bob Smith

Thats exactly what I was thinking. "Oh no, its a Paul Borrenson cycle!"

Jon, I think you can hit your goal without using AAS through training and diet alone. But thats up to you. Check out the nutrition forum and look for the "Hey Bob, lets get the ball rolling" thread."

Also, the UD2 (which is what Im using now) is an awesome diet and training program. Worth looking into.

Yeah your probly right Bob.....I just love the feeling when your on test prop....It gives me a little extra kick..

[sc redneck]

Could His Tren And Prop Be Used In One Shot

[JonTest]

Originally Posted by sc redneck

Could His Tren And Prop Be Used In One Shot

yes brotha

[RockBody]

It sounds decent. I don't think you mentioned anything about cardio, and so I would add that into the mix if you already haven't. The best times for cardio in order to burn a better ratio of fat:glycogen are in the morning before you eat, and right after you workout.

ROCKBODY